Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Right, so all uber drivers are immigrants? Unless theyre here illegally, do you believe they shouldnt have the same legal protections against exploitation as anyone else?

a very significant number of them have english as a second language (all the uber drivers i have had were clearly immigrants). so this means a very significan tnumber of them are migrants.

Rusty_Shackleton

economic wrote: »

they wouldnt as they wouldnt want to p!ss off a large number of their readership who are poor, hence likely drug addicts and gamblers

So just to clarify, your stance is, without knowing anything else about a person other than they are poor, you think on balance, more often than not theyre drug addicts or gamblers?

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Hahahahaha, not even gonna touch this. Its too ridiculous, you are beyond hope (or have been living in a cave for the past few years) if youre seriously defending a company like uber. Theyve done eff all for the economy. Almost any economic benefit has come from displacing taxi drivers, which like them or not, is not driving growth its simply shifting the money from one company to another.

maybe you should think a bit more. i think thats your problem. sure the traditional taxi drivers have been displace. but so what? look at the wider benefits for the economy. cheaper transport which means more £ in the pocket for you and i to spend on drugs/gambling. much more supply of drivers and hence a very quick service. less congestion. etc etc.

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

So just to clarify, your stance is, without knowing anything else about a person other than they are poor, you think on balance, more often than not theyre drug addicts or gamblers?

or dysfuntional/ mental problems.

economic

plus uber drivers pay very little tax, if any. and they can do it as a second job.

Rusty_Shackleton

economic wrote: »

a very significant number of them have english as a second language (all the uber drivers i have had were clearly immigrants). so this means a very significan tnumber of them are migrants.

You didn't answer my question. Do you believe LEGAL immigrants should have less protection under the law than others? There are immigrants who have been here decades who speak English as a second language, sometimes quite poorly, when in your book do they qualify for legal protection?

economic wrote: »

maybe you should think a bit more. i think thats your problem. sure the traditional taxi drivers have been displace. but so what? look at the wider benefits for the economy. cheaper transport which means more £ in the pocket for you and i to spend on drugs/gambling. much more supply of drivers and hence a very quick service. less congestion. etc etc.

Which is it, more drivers abd a quicker service or less vehicles and congestion?

Its sometimes cheaper, with uber depends on demand at the time and can be more than a cab. What about Uber dodging tax and so costing the taxpayer money? What about those Uber drivers who earn so little they get in work benefits, costing the taxpayer more? When uber is cheaper, its because the taxpayer are subsidising your bl*ody taxi. Thought you were against benefits? Then actually pay your way in full to someone who earns enough to actually live on.

Rusty_Shackleton

economic wrote: »

or dysfuntional/ mental problems.

Okay, let's try again. Youre saying, that without knowing anything at all about a person, if theyre poor, on balance of probabilities you think they are an alcoholic/drug addict/gambler/have mental health problems.

economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

You didn't answer my question. Do you believe LEGAL immigrants should have less protection under the law than others? There are immigrants who have been here decades who speak English as a second language, sometimes quite poorly, when in your book do they qualify for legal protection?



Which is it, more drivers abd a quicker service or less vehicles and congestion?

Its sometimes cheaper, with uber depends on demand at the time and can be more than a cab. What about Uber dodging tax and so costing the taxpayer money? What about those Uber drivers who earn so little they get in work benefits, costing the taxpayer more? When uber is cheaper, its because the taxpayer are subsidising your bl*ody taxi. Thought you were against benefits? Then actually pay your way in full to someone who earns enough to actually live on.

i never said anything about uber being right or wrong about breaking the law (if they even are). im just saying uber has been very beneficial. as for the tax evasion, well thats illegal so obviously that must be stopped/ have better controls around that. but even if they were tax evading, so what? still beneficial for all of us as i rather pay less on trnasport costs and have an uber driver dodge tax then pay higher costs for a taxi driver who is legit. as for uber drivers also claiming benefts, well at least they are working as uber drivers helping reduce taxi costs. so still very much beneficial, and of course helps the wider ecoonmy as creates demand across sectors.

as for more uber drivers and less congestion, yes that can happen as more people chose not to use their own car but share the same car between more people plus as i said as passengers get dropped off the uber drive usually picks another person nearby.

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economic

Rusty_Shackleton wrote: »

Okay, let's try again. Youre saying, that without knowing anything at all about a person, if theyre poor, on balance of probabilities you think they are an alcoholic/drug addict/gambler/have mental health problems.

im willing to bet yes. of course many poor people (poor in quality fo life) are also recent migrants too who may not have these issues so that would be an exception i guess.