Brexit, The Economy and House Prices (Part 2)

Conrad

Two of several articles over the last few weeks detailing the peasants revolt against tourists in Spain, and now even the Balearic isalnds.


Keep this in mind when EU cultists claim the UK is in a mess, whereas all is well in EU la la land;



http://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/europe/spains-antitourist-movement-is-reaching-boiling-point/news-story/185b003fb1b355f923fec21c31a2b75a



Spains anti-tourist movement is reaching boiling point




http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40826257


Youths in Catalonia and the Basque Country have daubed the slogan "tourists go home" on some buildings - just as foreigners flock to Spain on holiday, spending millions of euros.

Herzlos

I saw news that one of the "party" islands were trying to ban/stop tourists coming over and ruining the place. So I can certainly see why countries with a high percentage of English tourists want to try and curb it.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

The age-old conundrum: which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Well we had the chicken part last week so this week it looks like we're on eggs and the growing EU difficulty with contamination from a potentially harmful chemical in eggs and how this was known as early as June - but kept quiet.

Brussels warns egg scandal could now involve seven countries

Dutch farmers fear that fipronil fiasco could become even more damaging.

A Belgian company is under investigation for creating an illegal mite-killer containing fipronil. Belgium launched an investigation in June, but did not notify the European Commission until July.

http://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-warns-egg-scandal-could-now-involve-seven-countries/

Also: https://www.thelocal.de/20170806/belgium-admits-it-kept-quiet-about-tainted-eggs-recalled-in-germany

Thrugelmir

always_sunny wrote: »

The EU knows is in a good position to absorb the shock.

The EU is a generic term. The shock will be felt in many different ways. Very apparent that the Irish have genuine concerns.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

ilovehouses wrote: »

I'm afraid brexit isn't going to immunise the UK against future food scandals, it won't stop drugs, illegal weapons or people.

Aw, there's no need to be afraid.
The UK coped just fine for centuries before we joined the common market you know, so I'm sure we will cope just fine after leaving the EU too.

cogito

always_sunny wrote: »

I think it's not so clean cut though. It's not like if Russia invaded Switzerland and said, this is Russia now. I agree the whole thing should have been handled better but it's also true that the majority of people living there do affiliate themselves with Russia.

How would you feel if say there's a referendum in NI to ask whether RoI should be united and yes wins. Would you think RoI or the EU occupied parts of the UK?
I think for many people in the GB it'd be a major shock.

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There was a series of international agreements following the break up of the Soviet Union and in one of them, the various constituent republics agreed to accept existing boundaries. The Russians of course only stick to such agreements when it suits them.

The issue could have been resolved legally by means of a plebiscite if the citizens of the Crimea and other parts of Ukraine had expressed a desire for one but they didn't and the Russians occupied the Crimea anyway and fomented war in the Donetsk region.

Thrugelmir

cogito wrote: »

The issue could have been resolved legally by means of a plebiscite if the citizens of the Crimea and other parts of Ukraine had expressed a desire for one but they didn't and the Russians occupied the Crimea anyway and fomented war in the Donetsk region.

The politics of Geography. The Crimea is of strategic importance to the Russian Navy. The lease would have expired this year on the facility. Something the Russians would never of let happen.

cogito

Thrugelmir wrote: »

The politics of Geography. The Crimea is of strategic importance to the Russian Navy. The lease would have expired this year on the facility. Something the Russians would never of let happen.

None of this would have occurred if Krushchev in his wisdom had not given Crimea to Ukraine. And the lease would have been renewed anyway.

always_sunny

kabayiri wrote: »

It's not the EU response to Brexit. It is individual states.

If we ended with default tariffs for example, our treasury would take in £12bn on current trading volume, and the individual EU states would take in about £5bn.

But that £5bn would not be shared evenly, because we do not have evenly distributed trade across the block.

Now, our treasury would no doubt be under pressure to use this £12bn to cushion the effects.

How the EU cushion the effects is quite tricky. They can't even agree things like migrant/refugeee reallocation quotas. This is because there are big differences still in the EU.

I thinks it's very clear now [from the EU] that losing the UK from a contribution perspective is not going to be a problem, be under no illusion that any member state will bend backwards to accommodate the UK.

There are differences within the EU and they will always be, but there is no EU member looking to exit for the foreseeable future, no one has jumped at the Brexit wagon.

Eric_the_half_a_bee

always_sunny wrote: »

I thinks it's very clear now [from the EU] that losing the UK from a contribution perspective is not going to be a problem

We are the second largest net contributor and our departure means a 25% cut in the EU's budget. How is that not a problem for the EU?