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Teacher broke schools child safeguarding rules - WWYD?

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  • AylesburyDuck
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    edited 3 May 2017 at 10:20AM
    usefulmale wrote: »
    BOO. You should be ashamed of yourself. Projecting your own pathetic fears onto your child, who will grow up scared of their own shadow.

    If that's not actual emotional abuse, it's pretty close.
    LOL, and all that from never meeting me or my 4 grown up children once.
    Hilarious amount of effort put into that trolling. Not all that useful after all it seems. :rotfl::rotfl:
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  • Madmel
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    edited 3 May 2017 at 10:54AM
    It's a tough one. On the one hand, I've been late for pick up for the same reason. I left work at the normal time, allowing an hour for a 35 minute journey. There was an accident, roads were shut, massive diversion down single-track lanes etc. I was late. I rang the school to explain that I was on my way but it was the administrator's day off. The machine would not be checked until 3.45 and I arrived at 3.35, 20 minutes late. I received a mouthful from the teacher for being late and "not realising there would be nobody there to answer the phone", so I asked what else I could have done. The next day she apologised profusely, having listened to my message and calmed down overnight.

    Having received safeguarding training, I am uneasy about the story, but appreciate we do not have the full facts. If the classmate's father's DBS status was known by the school, then there is no problem. However, if his status is unknown, even though his own child is there, the OP's friend's child is the responsibility of the school and it was not the correct way to act. However, I think keeping a record of what happened is probably the pragmatic approach.
  • nkkingston
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    If she'd said "I was busting for a wee, I know Y's dad from his volunteering at Scouts and he was okay with it, I'm so sorry and it won't happen again" I'd absolutely be inclined to let it go, but I don't like that the teacher tried to spin it as a favour - that says to me she knows she was in the wrong and is pressuring the parent not to 'tell' on her. That kind of dishonesty doesn't sit well with me, and makes me wonder why she's being so manipulative. Has she done this before?

    Personally, I'd ping the head teacher an email, being careful to keep the tone light and non accusatory. Something along the lines of "On X date I was late to pick up my daughter, arriving at X time. I understood that in these circumstances the child is normally taken to the office, but on this occasion I found her in the classroom, where [teacher] had left her with Y and Y's father. To avoid confusion in future, if I am late I would prefer to meet my daughter in the office, in line with school policy, especially if the teacher is unable to remain with her."

    This alerts the head teacher to the fact the teacher went against school policy without making a big deal out of it, and sets out clear expectations for future interactions without speculating about could-have-beens. If it really isn't a big deal, then all that will happen is the teacher is alerted to the fact she should have followed policy more closely. If there is something else going on, then this lapse is documented.
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  • I'm either really naïve or old school but tbh I wouldn't have thought anything of it in the first place.
  • davidwood123
    davidwood123 Posts: 471 Forumite
    Could you imagine if the roles were reversed and YOU, OP , were the parent in the classroom with your child.

    I bet your opinion would be different.

    Or is this a sexist issue?

    Would you feel differently if it was a woman with your child?
  • Mojisola
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    nkkingston wrote: »
    I don't like that the teacher tried to spin it as a favour - that says to me she knows she was in the wrong and is pressuring the parent not to 'tell' on her.

    That kind of dishonesty doesn't sit well with me, and makes me wonder why she's being so manipulative. Has she done this before?

    This is a strange reaction on the information we've been given.
  • usefulmale
    usefulmale Posts: 2,627 Forumite
    LOL, and all that from never meeting me or my 4 grown up children once.
    Hilarious amount of effort put into that trolling. Not all that useful after all it seems. :rotfl::rotfl:

    A troll is NOT someone who has an opposing viewpoint to you.
  • LannieDuck
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    Would you feel differently if it was a woman with your child?

    People keep asking this. My answer is no, that's irrelevant to the safeguarding procedure. Which wasn't followed in this case.
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  • fabforty
    fabforty Posts: 809 Forumite
    Thanks for the replies - on both sides. My friend has seen the thread, I have no idea what she plans to do but the comments are certainly food for thought. Thanks again.
  • fabforty
    fabforty Posts: 809 Forumite
    edited 3 May 2017 at 6:42PM
    Could you imagine if the roles were reversed and YOU, OP , were the parent in the classroom with your child.

    I bet your opinion would be different.

    Or is this a sexist issue?

    Would you feel differently if it was a woman with your child?

    No idea as it wasn't my child. Always helps to read the OP;)

    ETA - the parent being male wasn't an issue for her.
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