the snap general election thread

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setmefree2 wrote: »

The DUP pretty much always vote with the tories anyways.

...and now they've got something to gain by threatening not to.

setmefree2

jack_pott wrote: »

...and now they've got something to gain by threatening not to.

They hate Corbyn and McDonnell - they'll do it for practically nothing. Imho

michaels

Moby wrote: »

Remember N Ireland voted to remain, but they'll get more resources than the English and Welsh regions that voted brexit purely due to the political expediency of the tory party.

They already get a subsidy even bigger than the Scots so will we even notice, there aren't many of them.

bugslet

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Now May is backing terrorists, hopefully she won't remain PM much longer.

I pledge to make the Conservatives lives as difficult as possible. They don't have a majority of votes, nor do they have a majority of seats, and with the backing they have, they're not a credible government.

If Corbyn had won on the same amount of votes, would you have pledged to make his life difficult as possible? Or is it that you just don't like the Tories.

I haven't read this thead enough to be sure of where you stand.

Filo25

A lot of the things the DUP wil want will have minimal impact on the rest of the UK, not being forced to make concessions to Sinn Fein to resume power sharing for example, or being allowed to continue to get their own way on social issues in NI.

Yes they will want some cash but as Michaels said NI is small enough the amount will be relatively "cheap" for rUK.

Where it may add some complexity is around Brexit negotiations as while the DUP are Brexiters, they probably have different priorities to some extent to the Tories given they are living in a region that will be affected differently than anywhere else in the UK due to the complexity of the border situation.

CKhalvashi

bugslet wrote: »

If Corbyn had won on the same amount of votes, would you have pledged to make his life difficult as possible? Or is it that you just don't like the Tories.

I haven't read this thead enough to be sure of where you stand.

In fairness, likely not.

Also in fairness, Labour haven't just partnered with an organisation with terrorists links to Proscribed Organisations in the United Kingdom under the Terrorism Act 2000.

[Removed photo I hadn't checked before posting to be fair to the party concerned. I still stand by the rest of what I said though, as it seems the text was pretty accurate]

This is after May accuses Corbyn of having links to terrorist organisations.

See why I may have a problem with that?

agarnett

Filo25 wrote: »

... they are living in a region that will be affected differently than anywhere else in the UK due to the complexity of the border situation.

How is it going to be affected differently? Building a wall over there are we? Submarine nets also? Patrolling the beaches and the winding single-track country lanes? Checkpoints for regular daily border crossing workers? Heat seeking helicopter patrols day and night, rain or shine? Locking up any EU citizen who crosses into UK without fresh paperwork? I think not.

Ryanair will no doubt be considering expanding their EU to Dublin routes and their Belfast to mainland UK for all those in EU who haven't been here yet and might find it easier to go through Dublin first rather than trouble with the soft-headed paperwork that TM and her hard as ice on a hot day Brexit will require.

Ryanair will also do a roaring trade in inflight sales of National Express Dublin to Belfast transfer tickets.

It's called Freedom Of Movement and fall all intents and purposes it is in fact now a Human Right. So you crazy Brexiteers better instead get used to it and concentrate instead on controlling those that exploit it as trafficking across a complete spectrum of ways with Ryanair at one end, and hardened and violent criminals at the other, with proper working conditions and wage levels under threat by the entire spectrum of profiteers involved.

mayonnaise

LBC's James O'Brien, spot on, as usual.

If Jeremy Corbyn is a "terrorist sympathiser", then what will Theresa May be when she joins with the DUP, asks James O'Brien.

"Because if Jeremy Corbyn is a terrorist sympathiser, what the hell do you call a political party that was endorsed by the Ulster Defence Association, the Red Hand Commando.

"Publicly and politically endorsed by the Red Hand Commando, the Ulster Volunteer Force, the Ulster Defence Association. But ooh, Jeremy Corbyn once had a cup of tea with Gerry Adams."

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/james-obrien/will-may-be-terrorist-sympathiser-after-dup-link/

bugslet

CKhalvashi wrote: »

In fairness, likely not.

Also in fairness, Labour haven't just partnered with an organisation with terrorists links to Proscribed Organisations in the United Kingdom under the Terrorism Act 2000.



This is after May accuses Corbyn of having links to terrorist organisations.

See why I may have a problem with that?

Neither the IRA are or DUP are great, but one is an elected party. A better comparison would be Sinn Fein with the DUP. May as far as I know hasn't ever commented on understanding/condoning/forgiving/whatever it was jeremy said, any of the dodgy organistaions in NI.

I can't complain that making life difficult for May is childish, as I would have been making a phone call to my accountant if Corbyn had had an outright win. In theory, I can retire.

I suspect that call may yet be made in a few months.;)

Rinoa

Filo25 wrote: »

A lot of the things the DUP wil want will have minimal impact on the rest of the UK, not being forced to make concessions to Sinn Fein to resume power sharing for example, or being allowed to continue to get their own way on social issues in NI.

Yes they will want some cash but as Michaels said NI is small enough the amount will be relatively "cheap" for rUK.

Where it may add some complexity is around Brexit negotiations as while the DUP are Brexiters, they probably have different priorities to some extent to the Tories given they are living in a region that will be affected differently than anywhere else in the UK due to the complexity of the border situation.

The DUP don't want a hard brexit.

So whereas before TM stupidly called the election and was in a position to walk away from negotiations and go the WTO route, that option is no longer available.

The EU negotiators have probably just opened a bottle of champagne. They'll walk all over us.