the snap general election thread

kabayiri

CKhalvashi wrote: »

Me too!

Where are the usual suspects this morning? I miss them already

We are still stuck.

Soft Brexit would work for the EU I reckon. They'd still get paid for an associate member with limited ability to steer the EU. They'd demand FOM pretty much as well, with perhaps a couple of work related concessions.

However, this will be painted as defeat by a resurgent Farage/right minded Tory group. Expect more future nationalism.

CKhalvashi

kabayiri wrote: »

We are still stuck.

Soft Brexit would work for the EU I reckon. They'd still get paid for an associate member with limited ability to steer the EU. They'd demand FOM pretty much as well, with perhaps a couple of work related concessions.

However, this will be painted as defeat by a resurgent Farage/right minded Tory group. Expect more future nationalism.

It'd work for business, and business is the lifeblood of the economy.

We asked the public for an opinion yesterday, and the public said 'Not in my name' to what May wants.

I take your point on the hard right, however I'm not convinced that the majority are hard right.

kabayiri

michaels wrote: »

Yep - in 5 years time I would have been happy to take a 150k bung.

It was such simplistic thinking.

I'm not a fan of large student debt, but couldn't we at least have a much more diversified H.E marketplace?

If some courses were markedly cheaper than others then students would have a much greater choice. You can't tell me that 'Free form dance studies' is worth £9K+ a year!

kabayiri

CKhalvashi wrote: »

It'd work for business, and business is the lifeblood of the economy.

We asked the public for an opinion yesterday, and the public said 'Not in my name' to what May wants.

I take your point on the hard right, however I'm not convinced that the majority are hard right.

It would work for some business, but would the effects be wide spread or would the gains concentrate in specific pockets?

The way we discuss peoples' concerns over job security is to dress them up as protectionist; nationalist; small minded; uneducated; fear of foreigners etc.

It actually stifles the debate, and allows the populists to move in, with their simplistic answers from both sides. A Farage character will push protectionism. A Corbyn type would expect the state to pick up the hidden costs.

mayonnaise

kabayiri wrote: »

We are still stuck.

Soft Brexit would work for the EU I reckon. They'd still get paid for an associate member with limited ability to steer the EU. They'd demand FOM pretty much as well, with perhaps a couple of work related concessions.

However, this will be painted as defeat by a resurgent Farage/right minded Tory group. Expect more future nationalism.

Any future government shouldn't be pandering to Farages/extreme brexiteers.
Theresa tried and see where it got her.

Wenlock

CKhalvashi wrote: »

It'd work for business, and business is the lifeblood of the economy.

We asked the public for an opinion yesterday, and the public said 'Not in my name' to what May wants.

I take your point on the hard right, however I'm not convinced that the majority are hard right.

The anti Brexit parties (SNP & LibDems) did poorly.

Both Labour and the Conservatives have committed to leaving the EU and ending freedom of movement. Therefore there is a clear mandate from the voters to leave the single market.

masterwilde

So now we are going to have a conservative minority, with no spending plan, a screwed up brexit one liner plan.

Failure as a political leader, failure to unite the country, failure to form a strong and stable governement

kabayiri

mayonnaise wrote: »

Any future government shouldn't be pandering to Farages/extreme brexiteers.
Theresa tried and see where it got her.

Wasn't it Cameron?

He helped put the Brexit option on the agenda. Farage was still a marginal character.

Cameron panicked over a right minded party attracting sympathy from within his own Tory party.

stator

Crazy how people vote for Sinn Fein and not the SDLP, knowing SF will not represent them at all.

kabayiri

In the middle of this election maelstrom there are still some reassuring constants.

One of them is the convincing re-election of Diane Abbott.

I am sure it would have been both racist and sexist not to choose her.

She is the Labour equivalent of BoJo. No matter what the gaffe, she emerges unscathed.

'Respec' ... (to the Hackney massive)