the snap general election thread

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

Reckon I would do better than current owner - he's an old fashioned type with basic offering. I'd turn it into a funky little surf hut with drift wood floor and walls etc and great healthy food

You'll be attracting all those weirdo liberal elitists looking for a tofu fry-up and kale fritters. :rotfl:

setmefree2

masterwilde wrote: »

May rightly being crticised on the bbc for not publicly having a go at Trump along with the other EU leaders.

they make a case that May wants to remain close to the USA regardless and this may in turn hurt the brexit negotiations with the closest allies

Personally I think Trump made a great case for pulling out of the Paris deal. Why should China be able to carry on polluting - it is the biggest polluter in the world? Why does China get away with everything from currency manipulation to theft of intellectual property? Why should the US, who has enough poor of its own, foot the bill - why can't Germany, France, Russia, etc stump up more.

Tell me this - who put Merkel in charge?

Hats off to TM.

steampowered

Rinoa wrote: »

June 19th. Brexit negotiations begin.

This comes up a lot. As someone whose job involves negotiating high value deals on a day-to-day basis (much of my job is executing mergers & acquisitions with a deal value in the region of £50 million to £10 billion), I do find this a rather ridiculous argument.

If you want to achieve something in a negotiation, you walk into the room saying "let's find a win-win deal that works for both of us".

If I walked into a room saying "I think you are all prats and I'm going to walk away unless you give me what you want", I wouldn't be able to negotiate a damn thing.

My clients would quite rightly fire me. Yet that seems to be the populist approach the Tories are advocating. It may be good old fun to sit around bashing the other countries in EU and willy waving, but it doesn't actually get you anywhere.

Yes you need to be tough at times but you treat your opposite side with respect, and you aim for the win-win rather than the lose-lose. A win-win deal is perfectly possible so let's drop the willy-waving.

michaels

masterwilde wrote: »

May rightly being crticised on the bbc for not publicly having a go at Trump along with the other EU leaders.

they make a case that May wants to remain close to the USA regardless and this may in turn hurt the brexit negotiations with the closest allies

I bet European leaders having a go at Trump improves his poll numbers and gives him more reason to ignore then when they come begging for a few troops because the Kremlin have annexed more of Ukraine.

We can of course all do Sixth form politics and refuse to talk to foreign countries who do anything we disapprove of but it won't get us very far in the real world.

Out,_Vile_Jelly

I'm sure future psephologists will be studying these past few weeks with great interest.

To be fair, I and several others have been bemoaning the detrimental effects of a weak and ineffectual opposition; this Labour surge should hopefully have kicked some Tory complacency sharply in the backside. Just goes to show you can't take anything for granted.

setmefree2

Thought I'd flag this up for anyone worrying about social care costs.

Corbyn's sly death tax trap: 1.2million more families' homes to be hit by Labour's plan to slash inheritance rate to £650,000

• Labour will scrap Tory plans to raise the inheritance tax threshold to £1m by 2021
• Instead, the party confirmed it would reduce it from £850,000 to just £650,000

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4564588/1-2m-homes-hit-Labour-plan-slash-inheritance-rate.html

setmefree2

Moby wrote: »

Jeremy is also proving to be far more resilient and competent than all of us thought, (Rugged Toast excepted).

I suspect we will all turn out to be right - even if he does manage to win.

I won't be going anywhere.....see you on "Corbynomics a Dystopia" on June 9th.

setmefree2

michaels wrote: »

I bet European leaders having a go at Trump improves his poll numbers and gives him more reason to ignore then when they come begging for a few troops because the Kremlin have annexed more of Ukraine.

And I ask again will JC take troops out of Eastern Europe (because he was clearly a bit of a Russian Tanki back in the day)?

Well I wish someone would ask him....

setmefree2

Filo25 wrote: »

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 45% (-4)
LAB: 40% (+6)
LDEM: 7% (-)

(via @IpsosMori)
Chgs. w/ mid May

Betting Odds

Coral

The latest odds for the party to emerge with the most seats are:

• Conservative - 1/12
• Labour - 13/2
• Lib Dems - 500/1
• Ukip - 1000/1
• Greens - 1000/1

Oddschecker


https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats

Moby

setmefree2 wrote: »

Thought I'd flag this up for anyone worrying about social care costs.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4564588/1-2m-homes-hit-Labour-plan-slash-inheritance-rate.html

Yep anyone who is worried about social care costs should look at the Daily Fail's critique of the Labour Party's policies to find out the 'truth'.......unbelievable how gullible some are!