the snap general election thread

mayonnaise

Theresa May refuses to take part in local and regional interviews

Prime Minister has opted to not participate in a series of media appearances in the run up to the general election

Probably a good move. The more she keeps her trap shut, the better for the Tory ratings.

I believe the Tories will still manage a majority next week, but the vindictive hag is toast.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/election-2017-theresa-may-local-interviews-regional-radio-conservative-campaign-a7768501.html

Conrad

mayonnaise wrote: »

Theresa May refuses to take part in local and regional interviews


Probably a good move. The more she keeps her trap shut, the better for the Tory ratings.

There's a very good case for quiet leadership. I don't know anything about the head of Audi for example and I don't want to hear from him, all I really want is great and efficient delivery. I know broadly where Audi is headed and what they're all about based on delivery.


After all don't we always say Politicians are full of hot air and don't do what they say? Just get on and deliver, stop talking !!!!!!!

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

CKhalvashi wrote: »

And who has the biggest pension funds?

I was asked by someone with about £25k in pensions (he's late 50s) what to do with it (on a non-advice 'what would CK do?' level, of course, as I'm not qualified to give advice).

This is someone who has worked all his life, and after the increased valuation in the FTSE. There are other circumstances in this case that I'm not willing to go into on an open forum, however I've seen the paperwork he's been sent, and that's about what's there.

A drop is going to affect him a lot more than it'll affect someone with a £1m pension portfolio, or even a £250k pension portfolio, both of whom would likely have other income-generating assets to fall back on, plus cash savings outside of a pension scheme.

£25k is enough (after the tax that will need to be paid) to get the remainder of his mortgage paid (on a 1 bed flat) without having to dip into his already stretched income to do this, then he will have a small workplace pension and state pension of £155 a week to live on in retirement.

So, now you've had some context into how difficult some people actually have it, I'll ask again, has the rise benefited the rich or the poor more?

He's got £25k in his pension in his late 50s? He's been working all his life? He's still got a mortgage to pay? On a 1 bed flat? All of this in his late 50s?

If this person really exists and is not some straw man that you just invented then I would give the guy the phone number for the Samaritans or something. :rotfl:

mayonnaise

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

He's got £25k in his pension in his late 50s? He's been working all his life? He's still got a mortgage to pay? On a 1 bed flat? All of this in his late 50s?

So what? My mate Crashy is in his late 50's and rents a bedsit in Musselburgh.
Different strokes for different folks.

Conrad

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

He's got £25k in his pension in his late 50s? He's been working all his life? He's still got a mortgage to pay? On a 1 bed flat? All of this in his late 50s?

If this person really exists and is not some straw man that you just invented then I would give the guy the phone number for the Samaritans or something. :rotfl:

Why would he not exist?
There's a ton of people like this and far worse.


One of my Brothers in late 40's has virtually nothing following his divorce.

Moby

bobbymotors wrote: »

How about putting your money where your mouth is then?

I say you're wrong and that TM will get back in with an increased majority. Comrade Corbyn is unelectable and always will be: elections are won from the centre and always will be. When it comes to actually putting the X on the ballot paper, Corbyn will fail.

As for leavers being in the wrong, what remoaners simply fail to get, is that - right or wrong - the people voted to leave. That's why the lib dems are going to be crushed yet again, they are campaigning against the will of the people: and the people don't care for that one bit.

How about it then? For charity? £500 of my money to £50 of yours. I say TM is PM on 9th June with an increased majority.

You could give your winnings to the labour party if you want!

Bobby, You may be right but what is not in dispute is that this election as badly damaged the authority of May. She will be negotiating with a poorer hand imo in a few weeks time. Our EU cousins will be quietly smiling away at her 'strong and stable' claims compared to the reality of her ineptitude! Jeremy is also proving to be far more resilient and competent than all of us thought, (Rugged Toast excepted).

Ronaldo_Mconaldo

Moby wrote: »

Bobby, You may be right but what is not in dispute is that this election as badly damaged the authority of May. She will be negotiating with a poorer hand imo in a few weeks time. Our EU cousins will be quietly smiling away at her 'strong and stable' claims compared to the reality of her ineptitude! Jeremy is also proving to be far more resilient and competent than all of us thought, (Rugged Toast excepted).

Who says? Just because a bunch of Labour supporting internet trolls say something is true doesn't make it so. We'll find out how things are in 1 week. And don't talk to me about polls, a bunch of companies who interrupt a bunch of unemployed people while they're watching Jeremy Kyle to ask them their voting intentions means nothing as it did the last few times.

mrginge

Moby wrote: »

Bobby, You may be right but what is not in dispute is that this election as badly damaged the authority of May. She will be negotiating with a poorer hand imo in a few weeks time. Our EU cousins will be quietly smiling away at her 'strong and stable' claims compared to the reality of her ineptitude! Jeremy is also proving to be far more resilient and competent than all of us thought, (Rugged Toast excepted).

Shouldn't you be in mourning as Jeremy hammers the final nail in the blairite coffin?

Spidernick

Conrad wrote: »

There's a very good case for quiet leadership. I don't know anything about the head of Audi for example and I don't want to hear from him, all I really want is great and efficient delivery. I know broadly where Audi is headed and what they're all about based on delivery.


After all don't we always say Politicians are full of hot air and don't do what they say? Just get on and deliver, stop talking !!!!!!!

I don't think that analogy works: we don't want the head of Audi to engage with us on a regular basis, but we do with senior politicians.

'The Quiet Man' was also one of the worst Tory leaders ever (in my opinion).

Rinoa

June 19th. Brexit negotiations begin.