PIP Refused...Is MR Worth It ?

rockingbilly

antrobus wrote: »

But still only half as confused as rockingbilly.:)

As I believe Ms Sheindlin puts it "If you tell the truth, then you don't have to have a good memory". Or as I would put it, if you suspect someone is making stuff up, prod away at them a bit, and eventually they'll forget what b*****s they told you to begin with, and tell you a different load of b*****s, and thus reveal themselves to the world.



That's the approach I took. (And I have only ever completed one PIP2 form. I did it all by myself. And I read what I had written.:) )

But it just makes sense to me. If you make life easy for the HCP person, and basically tell them what points you should get, and give them the reasons why you should get them, they are far more likely to give them to you. Basic human psychology.

Obviously it also helps if your telling the truth.

Obviously you are one clever individual. Unfortunately not everyone has that ability - me included. We need help to fill the forms out.
I work on the basis that if I tell it as it is I can't go wrong. I just hope that the assessor/DWP can see what I mean. To try to explain things by using the descriptors as a template would lose the meaning and feeling of what I would be saying.

At the end of the day I don't expect and PIP award. I'll just be glad when it is all over and think well I tried.

antrobus

rockingbilly wrote: »

Obviously you are one clever individual...

Yup. And I've got all sorts of certificates to prove it.

That might be why I found the whole PIP process straightforward. I looked at the table of activities, descriptors and points, worked out what I thought I should get, completed the PIP2 form on that basis, and was awarded exactly what I thought I should get.

rockingbilly wrote: »

..Unfortunately not everyone has that ability...

I perfectly well understand that. At one extreme, iIt's evident that some people even go into panic mode when faced with any kind of bureaucratic process. That is why I try and help people who post questions about PIP. Whether what I have to say is actually of any help to anybody, I have no idea. But at least I give it a go.

rockingbilly wrote: »

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- me included. We need help to fill the forms out.

I work on the basis that if I tell it as it is I can't go wrong. I just hope that the assessor/DWP can see what I mean. To try to explain things by using the descriptors as a template would lose the meaning and feeling of what I would be saying.

At the end of the day I don't expect and PIP award. I'll just be glad when it is all over and think well I tried.

I have no idea about you. You story seems to change from post to post.:)

rockingbilly

antrobus wrote: »

I have no idea about you. You story seems to change from post to post.:)

I don't think so. The facts of my PIP situation have been clearly reported and are completely true.

To say what you say is suggesting that I am telling untruths about my situation which I am not.

I agree I may not be totally clear all of the time: that is down to my difficulties and medication. hence why I find filling in those forms and attending assessments quite difficult and tiresome.

antrobus

rockingbilly wrote: »

I don't think so. The facts of my PIP situation have been clearly reported and are completely true.

To say what you say is suggesting that I am telling untruths about my situation which I am not.

I agree I may not be totally clear all of the time: that is down to my difficulties and medication. hence why I find filling in those forms and attending assessments quite difficult and tiresome.

It has already been documented here on this thread. Enough said.

Jack_Itin

Just rang DWP.....the guy said that he was "not sure" if they had received my MR letter yet, as it "can take seven to ten days to enter the system"...he suggested ringing at the end of this week.....the thing is, do I request an MR over the 'phone if they have still not received the letter ?......Jack.

poppy12345

Jack_Itin wrote: »

Just rang DWP.....the guy said that he was "not sure" if they had received my MR letter yet, as it "can take seven to ten days to enter the system"...he suggested ringing at the end of this week.....the thing is, do I request an MR over the 'phone if they have still not received the letter ?......Jack.

I would have thought most people request it over the phone then put it in writing so yes.

Jack_Itin

O.k....Have rung DWP again, and requested an MR...explained that letter was on it's way to them, setting out my reasons, a very nice lady said that the MR has been registered, and to ring at end of week to check that letter has entered their system, she also made a note that the letter is to be part of the MR.....another waiting game I guess......Jack.

pmlindyloo

Jack_Itin wrote: »

O.k....Have rung DWP again, and requested an MR...explained that letter was on it's way to them, setting out my reasons, a very nice lady said that the MR has been registered, and to ring at end of week to check that letter has entered their system, she also made a note that the letter is to be part of the MR.....another waiting game I guess......Jack.

I was going to reply about telephoning re: mandatory reconsideration but then after the previous reply saying to do so, decided not to post.

Whenever you call a note should be put on your 'file' to say that you had called and why.

So asking about your letter should have made them aware that you were requesting a MR so no need for another phone call.

BUT sometimes the file isn't updated properly so when in doubt, ring and ask.

I always say ' please can you note that I have called about.............' I also make a record of who answered the call, the date and time of the call and what it was about. All calls should be recorded and having such 'evidence' is extremely useful if there are any 'problems'.

Jack_Itin

I did wonder about the second call, but on the first one I didn't actually state that I was requesting an MR, just asking if they had received my letter, so just to make sure rang again, and did it "properly".....at least now they know......Jack.

Jack_Itin

O.k....Going to ring DWP in the morning, to see if they have received my MR letter....have rung twice, and they say it can take up to ten days to "get into their system".....tomorrow is day eleven, the thing is, what do I say if they have still not received it ?....I sent it "proof of post" in hindsight I should have sent it registered....anyone advice welcomed.......Jack.