Car accident with motorbike - they say I'm 100% liable

Tammykitty

Second_Account wrote: »

Well if the car was indicating left then came to a stop the biker may have thought the car was just stopping on the side of the road so he overtook the stopped car.

You admit you didn't see the biker (which you should have) and he should have really been more aware when he over took. But at the end of the day you are in wrong because you cut infront of him when turning right.

From the was I read it, the OP was beginning to turn right, and the motorbike was overtaking the (almost) stationary car turning left.


The motorbike collided with the OP in the lane he was in for overtaking (The lane the OP had been driving in, and was still in as he hadn't completed the turn)


If the OP had not begun turning, the motorbike would still have crashed into him, but it would have been headon.


IMO the motorbike passed when it wasn't safe to do so, as there was a car in the oncoming lane.

Second_Account

Tammykitty wrote: »

From the was I read it, the OP was beginning to turn right, and the motorbike was overtaking the (almost) stationary car turning left.


The motorbike collided with the OP in the lane he was in for overtaking (The lane the OP had been driving in, and was still in as he hadn't completed the turn)


If the OP had not begun turning, the motorbike would still have crashed into him, but it would have been headon.


IMO the motorbike passed when it wasn't safe to do so, as there was a car in the oncoming lane.

There is alot of information missing so it's difficult to say exactly what happened. We really need to know on what side of the road the collision occurred and whether the OP had been indicating to turn right.

But I think the thing that goes against the OP the most is that they have said they didn't see the bike. So if the biker has told his insurance company the OP turned into his path after he had completed the overtake then there isn't much that can be done to argue it wasn't her fault.

Debbiedex

I got let out by a coach which had stopped at a keep clear sign in traffic. A motorbike overtook the coach on the wrong side of the road and drove into me but I was blamed. Nothing I could do. I was accused of driving too fast, I was going at about 2 mph as I was slowly edging my way out past the coach.

BeenThroughItAll

Debbiedex wrote: »

I got let out by a coach which had stopped at a keep clear sign in traffic. A motorbike overtook the coach on the wrong side of the road and drove into me but I was blamed. Nothing I could do. I was accused of driving too fast, I was going at about 2 mph as I was slowly edging my way out past the coach.

So you couldn't actually see the road was clear then?

Marvel1

BeenThroughItAll wrote: »

So you couldn't actually see the road was clear then?

Ain't that the point of edging out slowly?

What would you have done? Not go and wait for traffic to clear including the ones on stop at the keep clear sign?

Strider590

Another point that's not really been mentioned, is that often in these situations, people being let out or flashed through, seem to let the other person do all the thinking for them "it must be safe, because he's letting me out".

Tammykitty

Mumof490 wrote: »

Hi all looking for some advise please

I had an accident in January I was turning right into a junction a car stopped and flashed me but wasn't 100% sure so I waited until they completely stopped it was dark around 6.30pm so harder to tell as I was turning a motorbike has come on to my side of the road over taking the car that stopped ( they were also turning right) hit the front of my car and he's now claiming for injury payment my insurance say I'm liable I can't take it to court nothing

He came on my side of the road and he also was over taking by a junction is there any way I can appeal this? Or anything

Absolutely gutted

Thanks

Mumof490 wrote: »

So this is my statement made shorter

At approximately 18:00 I left my home address

I travelled a short distance down the road and came to a complete stop in the carriage way indicating a right turn. I applied my hand break and was waiting for a safe opportunity to make a right turn

An oncoming vehicle on the other side of the carriage way approached my location and the driver began to indicate to turn left ( as I was turning right) this vehicle had begun to reduce their speed. The male driver signalled to me that I could make my turn in front of his vehicle. ( he flashed I wasn't 100% sure) so he then made a hand gesture. This vehicle then continued to slow down to a virtual complete stop and again the driver signalled go me indicating that I could turn right

I took my hand break off the vehicle to make the right turn whilst still on my side of the carriage way a motor cycle appeared on my side of the carriage way from behind the vehicle and collided with the front passenger side of my vehicle

I attached a photo of the damage which is the front passenger side

My view of the carriage way was unobstructed and the weather was wet. I had my headlights on and indicator on also

The male of the oncoming car who had stopped to allow me and the right turn stated he had witnessed the bike over take on the wrong side of the carriageway and hit my car
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Second_Account wrote: »

There is alot of information missing so it's difficult to say exactly what happened. We really need to know on what side of the road the collision occurred and whether the OP had been indicating to turn right.

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The bits in bold suggest the collision happened in the lane the OP was travelling in prior to turning right (The lane the motorbike was in while overtaking)

beautiful_ravens

Why didnt the bike see OP [headlights, indicator] in the other lane before overtaking the slowing down car in their own lane? If OP was stopped deciding to turn, the bike should have been able to see them in the lane they were planning to go into; so, was the bike going down the white line?
If OP was only slightly into the turn, and the passenger side wing was on the white line, thats why biker ended up hitting there, because he was on the white line planning to slip through both lanes?

movilogo

In other words in all probability when the OP started to turn the bike would have already been offside of the car holding back with headlights on, even at 50mph. Why didn't the OP see it?

Because people don't expect to see motorcycles! Motorists assume it is physically impossible for another car to pass thru that space.

Bikers don't get it. They always blame motorists for accidents where as they fail to realize irrespective of who is right or wrong, they are more vulnerable on a collision and thus they should be MORE careful than average motorists.

societys_child

jobdone1 wrote: »

You are 100% at fault no question. Sorry to be so harsh but you do not turn until it is safe to do so. Look at it this way if it was an emergancy service vehicle that passed the car that flashed you and you pulled across in their path no difference you was not paying attention I'm affraid imho

So you think an emergency vehicle driver would cross onto the wrong side of the road and crash into an oncoming vehicle. I'm sure they're better drivers then that . . .