Electric cars

DrEskimo

wymondham wrote: »

Might consider electric once the charging point issue gets sorted plus the cost comes down. Just looked out of interest for a Renault Zoe on lease. Is about £650 a month!!! - I can get a fully loaded Jag for that easily... ouch!

https://www.drive-electric.co.uk/vehicles/renault-zoe-dynamique-40-lease-36/

This is the cheapest lease deal at £250pm and £1,500 upfront.

But that is still too much. Buying a battery owned Zoe outright is the cheapest. Can be had for around £18k new, however I am waiting for a used one for <£15k.

almillar

It's trivially easy.

That's an empty can, Adrian. You have to go to a petrol station to fill it up. That's not the same, nor as convenient, as plugging in at home, you must acknowledge that.

I got a charge point installed free with my purchase of the Zoe,

You mean the manufacturer included the installation within the purchase price of the car.

Want to tell me what's different about those 2 statements, practically?!

but the final connection point may well still require changing to suit any new vehicle.

Mine is a type 2 socket - no lead on it. So will charge any Type 2 AC vehicle that has a cable. I've gone from a Zoe (type 2) to a Soul (type 1 Ac, dying out) and not changed the charge point at all. It would be foolish to install a charger (that you don't want to adapt in future) with a type 1 AC cable attached to it. A type 2 cable would be safe, that's the standard now for AC.

AdrianC

almillar wrote: »

That's an empty can, Adrian.

Is it? How do you know?

You have to go to a petrol station to fill it up.

But I don't need a special trip - I already did it, last time I was there anyway. I always keep a full can or two in the garage, for the petrol garden equipment... It's no hardship to tip it into the car or Landy instead of the mower or chainsaw or strimmer or hedge cutter.

almillar

Is it? How do you know?


Schrodinger's cat is inside and not drowning. You buy it empty, then you have to go to a petrol station to fill it up - that is utterly not the same as having the electric 'on tap'. It doesn't just appear in your garage full, that's all. It's not a magical 'always full' jerry can, it needs transported and filled. It is more difficult than plugging a car in. Ditto all your garden equipment. My garden's small, but all my kit is electric. And of course, not everyone has a garage to store petrol in.

Martyn1981

Maybe Tesla should be a little nervous, Hyundai will beat them to market with a $35k car (almost $35k), and it's got a longer range, and it's not a car, it's a SUV.

Fingers crossed for some serious worldwide production numbers, gotta get them BEV's out there, and they need to be profitable too.

Now It Can Be Told! Hyundai Kona Electric To Start At $36,450

The Hyundai Kona Electric is the car the entire world has been waiting for. The cute, sporty, all-electric crossover ticks all the boxes for anyone who wants to drive an EV. It doesn’t just hit the sweet spot, it is the sweet spot in the current automotive market. The fact that it is super efficient as well is just the icing on the cake.

To review, the Kona Electric has a 64 kWh battery and 258 miles of range according to the EPA. It is also loaded with high-tech goodies, including an innovative regenerative braking system that maximizes energy recovery when the traffic-aware cruise control is active. Only the Tesla Model 3 has created as much buzz in countries around the world as the Kona Electric. Contributing author Sebastian Blanco drove a Hyundai Kona Electric in Europe for CleanTechnica earlier this year and raved about it.

We were already told the Kona Electric would go on sale in the US in early 2019. The only thing we didn’t know was the price in America. Now, Hyundai has given up that last piece of information. Starting price in the US is $36,450. Let’s think about that for a minute. What other electric cars are available in America with a 258 mile range, every electronic bell and whistle you can imagine, and a starting price under $37,000? If you said “None,” go to the head of the class.

Martyn1981

My first thought was Mitsubishi GT/2000/3000, my second thought was looks nothing like them, either way, what a pretty car. Or to translate it into Murican - you got a purty mouth.

1st Chinese Exotic Electric Car — Qiantu K50 — About To Hit US Roads

NigeWick

Martyn1981 wrote: »

Hyundai will beat them to market

I've got a Ceramic Blue 64kWh Hyundai Kona on order. 42 week wait and I should pick it up August 28th. Unless, the rumours that they are upping production are true.

Martyn1981

Another article comparing TCO of ICE v's BEV. Big mileage here, so not applicable to lots of us yet, till prices fall, and cheaper smaller BEV's are available, but certainly looking good for the future of transportation.

Could The Tesla Model 3 Cut Your Car Costs By A Third?

AdrianC

Perhaps we've got an answer to a shortage of public recharging points?

https://www.facebook.com/findmeafunnyvideo/videos/2241690932549578/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6eOut9J5aQ
Same video, FB is better resolution

Typhoon2000

What I need is ultrafast charging at dedicated spots like petrol stations. Drive in top up in 5min, drive off - much like filling a car with petrol. No need to fit charging points to houses, every street light and parking spot, or overnight charging.

I Don’t want to rely on finding a low powered charging at point at my destination and hope there isn’t another car the parked for the whole day.
I see there are now 350kw chargers that can give you 100miles in 5min, so hopefully in a few more years we will be there. We already have petrol stations at strategic points. No need to fill the streets with charging points and cables.

Better still would be inductive charging at petrol stations so you don’t need to get out of the car for those five minutes.