Electric cars

AdrianC

Please point me to where I said EV bin wagons wouldn't happen? Of course they will - where appropriate. After all, electric and PH trucks are a reality now from a number of chassis manufacturers. Of course they're imminent... where appropriate.

Not only are they imminent... but they're already on the way.
https://www.dennis-eagle.co.uk/en/products/ecollect/
https://www.commercialmotor.com/news/product/dennis-eagle-introduce-fully-electric-bin-lorry-ecollect
http://lapv.co.uk/news/fullstory.php/aid/1175/Dennis_Eagle_unveils_eCollect_electric_vehicle_at_IFAT.html

300kWh batteries. Yet they're only aiming at "urban collection".

As part of our rigorous development process the vehicle is currently being subjected to extensive trials and technical verifications. These are designed to optimise battery management software, enabling the range of the vehicle to meet the requirements of urban collection

So, again, nothing very new. Just a bit more hype extrapolating from a narrow segment of the market.

gzoom

AdrianC wrote: »

Oh, and Bug - it's been tried before. BetterPlace went bust, Tesla gave up. The manufacturers can't even standardise on a single charging connector. Think about all those batteries on charge in the back room, and how thick a bit of wire you're going to need going in.

You really have no idea what your on about do you?

Tesla Semi (Truck) is running around the US as part of the development cycle.

CCS rapid chargers is now the standard in Europe and likely NA (Tesla are fitting CCS sockets now to their chargers and going to us current owners an adaptor).

New CCS standard is mandating water cooled cables for 150KW+, so to keep cable size down.

Not entirely sure why you keep on posting about EVs when your knowledge is so poor? I think we all get your thoughts on EVs.

Martyn1981

Herzlos wrote: »

On the solar roof stuff - all they need to do is save more money in energy than they cost to fit - That 30m2 roof could potentially generate 6kw of electricity (assuming 20% efficiency, in the appropriate climate). Put that on a trailer with a batter and over a 12 hour sunny day in somewhere that is south of Bristol and you'll get about 72kwh of electricity.

Cars are getting about 4-5 miles per kwh at the moment, so even if a truck is only getting 0.5 miles/kwh, that's 36 miles range "for free".

Yep, you are spot on. Standard panels these days are about 20% efficient (as you said), hopefully mid to high 30%'s in a decade.

6kWp flat mounted would generate approx 5,000kWh's pa, so nearly two UK households demand (equivalent). Or about 2,500 miles for the Tesla semi which should use less than 2kWh's per mile at max trailer weight.

Martyn1981

AdrianC wrote: »

You don't anyway. Tail-lifts are electric, and tend to come with additional batteries.

:rotfl: Charged from the diesel engine at appalling efficiency (lots of stages involved).

As an environmentalist I do however applaud your constant recycling of garbage.

Martyn1981

AdrianC wrote: »

No, I'm simply pointing out the facts and reality that the clickbait listicle from a somewhat biased source forgets to mention.

You don't like news about renewables, storage and EV's?

You think sites that report the news must therefore be biased?

You appear to fear the coming energy and transportation revolutions, and therefore need to spread misinformation or FUD?

Why are you?

AdrianC

gzoom wrote: »

Tesla Semi (Truck) is running around the US as part of the development cycle.

New here, are you?

CCS rapid chargers is now the standard in Europe and likely NA (Tesla are fitting CCS sockets now to their chargers and going to us current owners an adaptor).

So all those other formats... They're no longer being fitted to anything available in the European market?
Oh, hold on. Aren't Nissan using ChaDeMo on new Leafs still? And Tesla might be using CCS on Euro-spec Model 3s (don't all rush), but aren't they still on the proprietary on the S & X (which you can actually buy today)?

New CCS standard is mandating water cooled cables for 150KW+, so to keep cable size down.

And from the grid to this battery-swap station full of batteries being charged?


And I'm so happy that a truck will be able to recharge about 36 miles-worth in 12 hours of pretty damn optimum southern-UK sunny summer daytime conditions, rising to maybe 54 miles in a decade or so's time...

AdrianC

Martyn1981 wrote: »

You think sites that report the news must therefore be biased?

Yes, I do think sites which uncritically laud almost everything in their field, without any balanced consideration or analysis, are biased...

Martyn1981

AdrianC wrote: »

Yes, I do think sites which uncritically laud almost everything in their field, without any balanced consideration or analysis, are biased...

You'd best stick to the DM then.

Martyn1981

AdrianC wrote: »

And I'm so happy that a truck will be able to recharge about 36 miles-worth in 12 hours of pretty damn optimum southern-UK sunny summer daytime conditions, rising to maybe 54 miles in a decade or so's time...

So you are also against PV, and the creation of leccy from a free fuel source? I guess you'd rather households got leccy from coal then, and trucks be driven by diesel.

Seems your ideological opposition to cleaner, greener transport and energy is a deeply held position. I actually feel sorry for you and the decades of disappointment that are coming your way.

gzoom

AdrianC wrote: »

New here, are you?

Sadly not. But luckily regardless of a few dinosaurs like your self the rest of the world is moving on.

VAGs abysmal actions over cheating the EPA on diesel emissions and the subsequent punishment is looking like the fuel needed to drive the EV spark started by Tesla.

People can ignore Tesla as been a niche player but when VAG is now starting to so signs of delivering on their promises for EV adoption, EVERYONE is going to have to join in.