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Mojisola

NewShadow wrote: »

Conversely, RSPAC assured milk requires the calf to stay with the mother but does not require the calf to be fed organic milk (RSPCA allows the feeding of some GM products) - thus happy cows but not organic products.

No judgement, just facts.

Could you explain where you have found this fact?

NewShadow

Mojisola wrote: »

Could you explain where you have found this fact?

In conversation with an RSPCA assessor while on secondment to Rural Affairs.

They require calves to be kept 'at foot' for 12 weeks (which is apparently fairly normal for the industry in and non intensive situation regardless of organic status) or for the farm to justify as part of their health plan why not and what measures they are putting in place (if not) to ensure wellbeing of both the calf and cow.

At least, that was what I was told roughly 4 years ago.

NewShadow

Mojisola wrote: »

This just isn't true!

This is just one example of the regulations -
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=celex:32008R0889

Welfare is an integral part of ALL the regulations - the directive you've just linked to is little different from any of the other animal specific directives setting minimum standards for welfare regardless of organic status.

example - http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/ALL/?uri=CELEX:32008L0119 http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/2669.htm

All of them promote welfare and minimum standards which can be improved on by the host country and everyone knows the different countries implement and enforce the EU directives to varying degrees.

Mojisola

NewShadow wrote: »

In conversation with an RSPCA assessor while on secondment to Rural Affairs.

They require calves to be kept 'at foot' for 12 weeks (which is apparently fairly normal for the industry in and non intensive situation regardless of organic status) or for the farm to justify as part of their health plan why not and what measures they are putting in place (if not) to ensure wellbeing of both the calf and cow.

At least, that was what I was told roughly 4 years ago.

I can't find any regulations saying this is required.

On most dairy farms, the male calves are killed immediately and the females are kept in a group and fed from a teat system.