North Yorkshire Police - Operation Spartan

Car_54

The occifer says "With liveried police vehicles being highly identifiable on the road, the opportunities for traffic officers to witness poor driving are somewhat reduced"

Isn't there an obvious solution to that? And one that would actually save money?

dannyrst

Stoke wrote: »

Maybe? Maybe not. We're still hypothesizing here, because there's no guarantee that they'll even turn up.... and I have this very niggling feeling that they won't. Not once. Genuinely. If Paddy Power were doing odds on this, I reckon you wouldn't get much back if you put twenty quid on them to visit more than 5 people.

It's a nice idea to keep surveillance though.

Interesting.

I was walking along, minding my own business one day when someone threw a takeaway bag out of the car window at my face. No damage to my face, the only damage was to the environment from the littering.

I called 101, and within 30 minutes, two PCSO's were at my door asking for details. I've since had 4/5 follow up phone calls updating me of how they were progressing with getting in touch with the driver.

Remember, this is North Yorkshire, where a lot of rural police forces have little major crime to deal with.

dannyrst

Car_54 wrote: »

The occifer says "With liveried police vehicles being highly identifiable on the road, the opportunities for traffic officers to witness poor driving are somewhat reduced"

Isn't there an obvious solution to that? And one that would actually save money?

Allow people to put liveries on their own cars, so people think they are police?

Because you're clearly not suggesting more police on the roads, given that would cost an absolute fortune...

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dannyrst wrote: »

Because you're clearly not suggesting more police on the roads, given that would cost an absolute fortune...

This I don't get.

In The Olden Days there were Police Stations THAT WERE OPEN everywhere, not just one per count[STRIKE]r[/STRIKE]y
There were whole fleets of Police cars, bobbies on the beat etc.

Why can the 6th biggest economy in the World (or so they say) suddenly not be able to afford what we were able to in The Olden Days, when we had to eat stale bread crusts and live in leaky cardboard boxes?

Tothepoint.

dannyrst wrote: »

Interesting.

I was walking along, minding my own business one day when someone threw a takeaway bag out of the car window at my face. No damage to my face, the only damage was to the environment from the littering.

I called 101, and within 30 minutes, two PCSO's were at my door asking for details. I've since had 4/5 follow up phone calls updating me of how they were progressing with getting in touch with the driver.

Remember, this is North Yorkshire, where a lot of rural police forces have little major crime to deal with.

So no police officers?

Car_54

dannyrst wrote: »

Allow people to put liveries on their own cars, so people think they are police?

Quite the reverse. Put all the traffic occifers in unmarked cars.

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Car_54 wrote: »

Quite the reverse. Put all the traffic occifers in unmarked cars.

That would catch offenders, not deter them

A marked car would discourage offences within a couple of hundred metres in daylight, all those crimes not committed How much safer the roads would be. :eek:

But crimes not committed don't count on statistics, only crimes cleared up, hence the love of speed cameras, each flash is a criminal bang to rights and another statistic for the cleared up column.

Tothepoint.

facade wrote: »

That would catch offenders, not deter them

A marked car would discourage offences within a couple of hundred metres in daylight, all those crimes not committed How much safer the roads would be. :eek:

But crimes not committed don't count on statistics, only crimes cleared up, hence the love of speed cameras, each flash is a criminal bang to rights and another statistic for the cleared up column.

Yes they do as do your undetected crimes.

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Tothepoint. wrote: »

Yes they do as do your undetected crimes.

How can they count the number of things that don't happen? :eek:

They can estimate it from a reduction if they have enough historical data, but as we know statistics can be made to say anything, like justifying a speed camera- 5 people were killed on this road last year, now there are none since the camera, but there might never have been another death in 500 years, those 5 could have been an anomaly


I'd better keep putting down the Elephant powder then, it's the only thing keeping us from being overrun by the b#gg#rs :rotfl:

Tothepoint.

facade wrote: »

How can they count the number of things that don't happen? :eek:

They can estimate it from a reduction if they have enough historical data, but as we know statistics can be made to say anything, like justifying a speed camera- 5 people were killed on this road last year, now there are none since the camera, but there might never have been another death in 500 years, those 5 could have been an anomaly


I'd better keep putting down the Elephant powder then, it's the only thing keeping us from being overrun by the b#gg#rs :rotfl:

Ask your Police and Crime Commissioner, the Home Office like to target forces on crime reduction and produce their statistics to prove what ever it is that suits them at the given time.