North Yorkshire Police - Operation Spartan

Tothepoint.

George_Michael wrote: »

How exactly will they know where to go?
The online reporting form for Operation Spartan doesn't require you to give any personal details and dash cam footage can also be submitted anonymously so if you use a disposable e-mail account for this, they won't have your name, address or anything else to trace you with.
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/what-we-do/road-policing/operation-spartan/

If you are really paranoid (as you seem to be), then simply set up a new e-mail account with Yahoo, Google etc using a free VPN service and send the report form from a proxy server in another country.

For what purpose, intelligence? Because it wouldn't be for prosecution.

George_Michael

Stoke wrote: »

It's not paranoia, it's bloody common sense.

Well, I've managed to live for all of my 59 years in the UK and I've never had any problems whatsoever with the police.
In the few times that I've had contact with them, they have always acted as I hoped that they would so in my opinion, you are most certainly paranoid.

George_Michael

Tothepoint. wrote: »

For what purpose, intelligence? Because it wouldn't be for prosecution.

I know that anonymously sent video can't be used for prosecution but there is nothing to stop the police using finding out the details of the drivers concerned and visiting them to discuss what has been recorded.
This in itself may encourage the drivers to improve their standard of driving especially if they think that the police may now be more aware of them and how they drive.

Stoke

George_Michael wrote: »

Well, I've managed to live for all of my 59 years in the UK and I've never had any problems whatsoever with the police.
In the few times that I've had contact with them, they have always acted as I hoped that they would so in my opinion, you are most certainly paranoid.

I've not had problems with the police. I have serious and genuine concerns about the way they've handled things historically (certainly things I've observed). I have no reason to believe they've changed their ways. I've spoken before (much to the typical backlash on here) about what I feel is a culture of systemic corruption involving officers in senior positions. That toxicity often filters down to low ranking officers who probably joined with good intentions. It only takes a few bad apples to poison an entire force.

Now, we're going off topic here. If you want my opinion on this (and quite frankly, it's clear some of you don't), I would simply avoid it. Get on with your life. Don't be a busy body who grasses up that kid in his Saxo who was tailgating you. It might just backfire.

Stoke

George_Michael wrote: »

I know that anonymously sent video can't be used for prosecution but there is nothing to stop the police using finding out the details of the drivers concerned and visiting them to discuss what has been recorded.
This in itself may encourage the drivers to improve their standard of driving especially if they think that the police may now be more aware of them and how they drive.

Behave. If the police are as stretched as they claim (something which I'm 50/50 on), then they won't have time to go round and have a 'quiet chat' with that lad who happened to run a temporary light the other day.

There is no chance of prosecution, there is little likelihood of them even speaking to those in the wrong.... so why put yourself in the situation where it might backfire.

Just move on.....

Tothepoint.

George_Michael wrote: »

I know that anonymously sent video can't be used for prosecution but there is nothing to stop the police using finding out the details of the drivers concerned and visiting them to discuss what has been recorded.
This in itself may encourage the drivers to improve their standard of driving especially if they think that the police may now be more aware of them and how they drive.

Discuss what?

Ive got nothing to discuss plod. Goodbye end of discussion door closed.

Is that how you want your money spent?

George_Michael

Tothepoint. wrote: »

Discuss what?

Ive got nothing to discuss plod. Goodbye end of discussion door closed.

Is that how you want your money spent?

Even if that happened, don't you think that the driver concerned might just drive a bit better, even if only for a while if they think that the police are now aware of their poor road standards?


I wonder if you would be so against the idea if someone drove into your car and left without reporting it but you were contacted by someone who had recorded the whole thing on their dashcam and this allowed the driver to be traced.

Stoke

George_Michael wrote: »

Even if that happened, don't you think that the driver concerned might just drive a bit better, even if only for a while if they think that the police are now aware of their poor road standards?

Maybe? Maybe not. We're still hypothesizing here, because there's no guarantee that they'll even turn up.... and I have this very niggling feeling that they won't. Not once. Genuinely. If Paddy Power were doing odds on this, I reckon you wouldn't get much back if you put twenty quid on them to visit more than 5 people.

It's a nice idea to keep surveillance though.

Stoke

George_Michael wrote: »

I wonder if you would be so against the idea if someone drove into your car and left without reporting it but you were contacted by someone who had recorded the whole thing on their dashcam and this allowed the driver to be traced.

Completely and utterly different situation and I can in fact speak from experience, as I witnessed (and subsequently video recorded) a man dangerously reversing on a car park, only to smash into a vehicle, and then drive off.

I left my phone number on the vehicle which had been hit and he contacted me. I presented him with the video evidence and he took it to the police..... who promptly did absolutely nothing. :rotfl:

But more to the point, do you really think that this is going to solve that problem you speak of? Police are not going to act as go-between. If someone hits your car and someone witnesses it, they will have to let you know.... if you want to get anything done about it.

Tothepoint.

George_Michael wrote: »

Even if that happened, don't you think that the driver concerned might just drive a bit better, even if only for a while if they think that the police are now aware of their poor road standards?


I wonder if you would be so against the idea if someone drove into your car and left without reporting it but you were contacted by someone who had recorded the whole thing on their dashcam and this allowed the driver to be traced.

That's entirely different to an anonymous report of bad driving and the evidence would be admissible.