Brexit vote: The breakdown

StevieJ

Joeskeppi wrote: »

This tallies up with my experience pretty well.

People who aren't doing as well as others will blame anything but themselves.

Once we've left the EU what will their excuse be then?

There will still be immigrants here to blame.

missbiggles1

mwpt wrote: »

BBC article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38227674

Quoted:

New research has cast fresh light on who decided to vote Leave in June's referendum - and provides further evidence of how they saw off the Remainers.

The National Centre for Social Research report is based on a "synthesis of evidence" from the British Social Attitudes Survey of 3,000 adults; the NCSR's own panel of almost 4,000 people, in May/June and September; and the British Election Study Panel of around 30,000 people.

Turnout
The National Centre for Social Research finds that of those who told it in May that they were likely to vote Leave, 11% did not actually vote.
For those saying they were likely to vote Remain, the non-voting figure was 19%.
The Remain vote "clearly softened during the campaign", the report finds.
"This must raise questions about the ability of the Remain campaign to 'get out the vote'," it says.

Big issues
The issues cited as the most important in deciding people's referendum position were:
The economy (21%)
Immigration (20%)
Sovereignty/EU bureaucracy (17%)

The report says 88% of those who thought immigration was the biggest issue voted Leave, and 90% of those who chose sovereignty.
Among those citing the economy, it was 15%.

Party
The proportion of people voting Leave, when looked at by party identification, was:
UKIP - 98%
No affiliation - 70%
Conservative - 58%
Labour - 36%
Liberal Democrat - 26%
Green Party - 21%

Newspaper
The report says voters were more likely to "follow the position" of the newspaper they read than the political party they identified with.

Newspapers
The rates of Leave voting among people looked at by the newspapers read most often were:
Sun - 70%
Express - 70%
Mail - 66%
Star - 65%
Telegraph - 55%
Mirror - 44%
No newspaper - 41%
Other paper - 33%
Times - 30%
Financial Times - 22%
Independent - 15%
Guardian - 9%

Groups
The people most likely to vote Leave were:
Those with no formal qualifications (78%)
Those with an income of less than £1,200 a month (66%)
Those in social housing provided by councils (70%) or housing associations (68%)
When questioned on their feelings about life, the people most likely to vote Leave were:
Those finding it difficult to manage financially (70%), or just about getting by (60%)
Those who believe Britain has got worse in last decade (73%)
Those who think things have got worse for them in last decade (76%)
Those who see themselves as English rather than British (74%)

The report also notes a "slow burn of Euroscepticism" and that the referendum highlighted "a wide range of social, geographic and other differences".

It was not, it adds, a "traditional left-right battle" but one more about "identity and values", calling it a "strong sign that the so-called 'culture wars' of the US have arrived in Great Britain in earnest".

Rather proves what many of us have been saying, even if others have tried to deny it!

Thrugelmir

StevieJ wrote: »

Why was ever closer political and economic union inevitable for the UK? We are not members of the Euro group.

Then the old argument about the UK sitting on the sidelines resurfaces. We are either totally in or out. You sound as if you want to pick and choose the parts that you are happy for the UK to adopt. FOM by it's very nature is reshaping Europe. Arguably by the back door.

Sapphire

mayonnaise wrote: »

Oh how convenient. Those with degrees and 'senior positions' voted Leave, inherited wealth and housing rampers voted Remain.

I provided these examples because this has been my experience, among my own personal friends and family. It is not a matter of 'convenience'. Take it or leave it – I don't care. :T:j

Oh, and by the way, the 'inherited wealth and housing rampers' (as you put it) in my examples also have degrees, so I don't know what your point is.:doh:

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

The people most likely to vote Leave were:

Those with no formal qualifications (78%)
Those with an income of less than £1,200 a month (66%)
Those in social housing provided by councils (70%) or housing associations (68%)

When questioned on their feelings about life, the people most likely to vote Leave were:

Those finding it difficult to manage financially (70%), or just about getting by (60%)
Those who believe Britain has got worse in last decade (73%)
Those who think things have got worse for them in last decade (76%)
Those who see themselves as English rather than British (74%)

Proving rather definitively that Turkeys really will vote for Christmas if you give them the opportunity.

As these are the very people that will pay the heaviest price for leaving the EU....

bugslet

mwpt wrote: »

UKIP - 98%
No affiliation - 70%
Conservative - 58%
Labour - 36%
Liberal Democrat - 26%
Green Party - 21%

Newspaper
The report says voters were more likely to "follow the position" of the newspaper they read than the political party they identified with.

Newspapers
The rates of Leave voting among people looked at by the newspapers read most often were:
Sun - 70%
Express - 70%
Mail - 66%
Star - 65%
Telegraph - 55%
Mirror - 44%
No newspaper - 41%
Other paper - 33%
Times - 30%
Financial Times - 22%
Independent - 15%
Guardian - 9%

Groups
The people most likely to vote Leave were:
Those with no formal qualifications (78%)
Those with an income of less than £1,200 a month (66%)
Those in social housing provided by councils (70%) or housing associations (68%)
When questioned on their feelings about life, the people most likely to vote Leave were:
Those finding it difficult to manage financially (70%), or just about getting by (60%)
Those who believe Britain has got worse in last decade (73%)
Those who think things have got worse for them in last decade (76%)
Those who see themselves as English rather than British (74%)

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I'm an unusual Leaver then.

Of those I tend to vote Conservative, but I'm a very left Conservative.

And I tend to see myself as English; I don't have a problem with the Scots, Welsh or Irish seeing themselves as such and don't see a problem with that.

Other than those two there isn't anything I have in common with other Leavers.

I'm evidently not in line with my fellow Times readers.

I didn't get a degree, but that's because I chose not to take up any of the university's offers; I don't naturally fit well with large institutions and on a purely personal level that was probably a factor in voting.

If the referendum had been held in December, I would have voted Remain.

lush_walrus

mayonnaise wrote: »

Oh how convenient. Those with degrees and 'senior positions' voted Leave, inherited wealth and housing rampers voted Remain. :rotfl:

Or you can believe the media who always tell the truth.

I voted leave, I studied for 7 years at uni am qualified in a very traditional profession I also own a business.

I fathom a guess that the person you are disbelieving would be similar to me in mixing mainly with others whom they knew from uni (thus the common reference to degrees) or from hobbies that were established at uni and came from a family who valued education (thus they also have degrees). Particularly in London.

But somehow the media do not quite believe that I voted leave, no no it was only the elderly and the poor.

lush_walrus

steampowered wrote: »

The first paragraph tells you where the facts and figures come from.

Quite why you think a selective exit poll would be more accurate than another selective poll is beyond me. 37,000 people is a very reasonable sample size.

Because 30000 of them are from a pre disposed selection. Not from a random group.

CLAPTON

people most likely to vote to remain are the 18 -35 age group these are the people that you would LEAST seek advice or help from in ordinary life;
if you or your child were seriously ill you are unlikely to seek the advice of a 20 year old trainee doctor in preference to say a 45 year old consultant; if you wanted financial advice about saving or pensions or you car fixed etc most of us would seek proven experience rather than unskilled enthusiasm

to boast it is the people with the least experience of life, without managerial experience, having achieved little, often still students etc who support remain, doesn't seem a strong argument

TrickyTree83

Joeskeppi wrote: »

This tallies up with my experience pretty well.

People who aren't doing as well as others will blame anything but themselves.

Once we've left the EU what will their excuse be then?

And what about those who are doing fine, who are also degree educated and wealthy?

Are they just stupid?



Stop talking rubbish.