Brexit vote: The breakdown

mrginge

mayonnaise wrote: »

Benefits?
I thought those disaffected Brexit voting underclasses - once freed from the shackles of the EU - would turn into highly skilled, highly paid Empire Beer brewing professionals making a roaring success of our Nimble Tiger Economy?

I'm afraid not mayo. According to our resident statistical expert / self- important egomaniac, us cretinous retards will have even less reason to live our worthless existences.

So it's up to all you clever rich people to keep us going in spaghetti hoops and 4K TVs.
And we will repay you by burglarising your houses and laughing in your faces.

mayonnaise

Poll suggests public will not accept a Brexit that leaves them worse off

In a sign that a majority of the public would be unwilling to accept an economically damaging hard Brexit, half of those who voted to leave the EU in June, including 62% of Labour voters and 59% of those in the north, would not be willing to lose any money at all as a consequence of Britain’s withdrawal.

Turkeys that voted for Christmas are not really looking forward to Christmas.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/10/poll-public-will-not-accept-brexit-worse-off-tim-farron-ukip-lib-dem-yougov

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

Poll suggests public will not accept a Brexit that leaves them worse off



Turkeys that voted for Christmas are not really looking forward to Christmas.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/dec/10/poll-public-will-not-accept-brexit-worse-off-tim-farron-ukip-lib-dem-yougov

Oh purrleeze. A poll of 1615 people run by YouGov which is run by a chap whose wife is Baroness Ashton who is one of the biggest snouts in the EU trough.

I seem to recall that there was a poll in June when over 17m people voted out.

[Deleted User]

Anyone who's wondering why Britain's going down the plughole would do well to read this instead of blaming it on immigrants and the EU. We're now 152nd in the world when it comes to investment in R&D, never mind, at least we can still compete with Madagascar.

mrginge

jack_pott wrote: »

Anyone who's wondering why Britain's going down the plughole would do well to read this instead of blaming it on immigrants and the EU. We're now 152nd in the world when it comes to investment in R&D, never mind, at least we can still compete with Madagascar.

Nobody is wondering that because Britain is clearly not going down the plug hole.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

jack_pott wrote: »

Anyone who's wondering why Britain's going down the plughole would do well to read this instead of blaming it on immigrants and the EU. We're now 152nd in the world when it comes to investment in R&D, never mind, at least we can still compete with Madagascar.

Ahem.
YOU may think "Britain's going down the plughole" but many others do not.
Not to mention your source being the BBC who most of us by now realise are not exactly impartial.
Also of course, if you are so unhappy with Britain you are more than free to leave.

As balance then from 21st November:

PM announces major research boost to make Britain the go-to place for innovators and investors

• additional £2 billion government investment per year for research and development by the end of this Parliament
• new Industrial Strategy Challenge Fund will help Britain capitalise on its strengths in cutting-edge research like AI and biotech

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-announces-a-2-billion-investment-in-research-and-development

Conrad

jack_pott wrote: »

Anyone who's wondering why Britain's going down the plughole would do well to read this instead of blaming it on immigrants and the EU. We're now 152nd in the world when it comes to investment in R&D, never mind, at least we can still compete with Madagascar.

Here's just some examples of the 'UK dire' diatribe we're fed;


Fattest in Europe


amongst the most drunk


Smallest homes in developed world


Least active


Least productive (in work)


Shortest stay in maternity wards



70% of European card debt


Highest teen pregnancy


Worst literacy and math results


Highest domestic abuse


Highest abortion rate


Greatest inequality


Highest rents


UK school leavers 'the worst in Europe for essential skills', report says


UK school children unhappiest in Europe


English teenagers 'are most illiterate in the developed world', report reveals (Jan 2016)



Worst at learning other languages




Given life is so awful why do liberals wish to inflict this on immigrants and refugees? Surely incumbent on liberals to campaign to urge immigrants chose better places?

kabayiri

Low investment can be directly related the abundance of cheap labour. It's been a pattern for a quarter of a century.

I was part of a team which presented a business case to the board for a highly automated plant. The board chose instead to shift the operation to China using more labour intensive methods.

The reasoning? Capital investment was considered a "slow return" compared to the subcontracting option.

Now we have a mass abundance of cheap migrant labour right here, why would you seek to invest in automation? It's the same logic.

Conrad

kabayiri wrote: »

Low investment can be directly related the abundance of cheap labour. It's been a pattern for a quarter of a century.

I was part of a team which presented a business case to the board for a highly automated plant. The board chose instead to shift the operation to China using more labour intensive methods.

The reasoning? Capital investment was considered a "slow return" compared to the subcontracting option.

Now we have a mass abundance of cheap migrant labour right here, why would you seek to invest in automation? It's the same logic.

Yes and I would think having a service based economy would also have a statistical impact on R&D?


BBC Radio 4's 'More or less' show is brilliant for challenging all these stats.


A prime example - they looked into whether its true we are less productive and the finding was that a service economy will always struggle to increase productivity - one can only serve so many cups of coffee - there's a limit.

ruggedtoast

Conrad wrote: »

Here's just some examples of the 'UK dire' diatribe we're fed;


Fattest in Europe


amongst the most drunk


Smallest homes in developed world


Least active


Least productive (in work)


Shortest stay in maternity wards



70% of European card debt


Highest teen pregnancy


Worst literacy and math results


Highest domestic abuse


Highest abortion rate


Greatest inequality


Highest rents


UK school leavers 'the worst in Europe for essential skills', report says


UK school children unhappiest in Europe


English teenagers 'are most illiterate in the developed world', report reveals (Jan 2016)



Worst at learning other languages




Given life is so awful why do liberals wish to inflict this on immigrants and refugees? Surely incumbent on liberals to campaign to urge immigrants chose better places?

I don't know which is worse; your lazy use of the American word "liberal" which is fundamentally meaningless in the UK unless you are talking about the Liberal Democrats, or your inability to stop xenophobically ranting about immigrants while doing so.