Brexit vote: The breakdown

TrickyTree83

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Proving rather definitively that Turkeys really will vote for Christmas if you give them the opportunity.

As these are the very people that will pay the heaviest price for leaving the EU....

Except you're not them, so you have no idea if they believe the price they will pay is worth paying to solve the issues they face.

I'm genuinely sick of the bigotry on here now.

These people are not turkeys voting for Christmas, they're bloody people Hamish, with a different perspective on life to yourself. Perhaps their wages are squeezed, perhaps they've lost out on jobs, perhaps they're raging racists, perhaps they are xenophobes.

Fact is - you don't know! So you've no right to categorise them and assert that they will pay the heaviest price when you don't know anything about what price they will pay either!

Out,_Vile_Jelly

What I find most intriguing from those stats is that a quarter of LibDems voted Leave. I've mostly voted LD during my life (as a least worst option, not out of enthusiasm) but voted Leave and find their tone since the referendum quite off-putting.

mwpt

lush_walrus wrote: »

But somehow the media do not quite believe that I voted leave, no no it was only the elderly and the poor.

I think you need to learn how percentages work. When you use the word "only" that implies 100%. Scroll up and see if there any 100% figures there?

mrginge

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Proving rather definitively that Turkeys really will vote for Christmas if you give them the opportunity.

As these are the very people that will pay the heaviest price for leaving the EU....

Not really hamish because they have nowt at the moment.
So it'll be you who has to fork out all the extra tax to keep paying their benefits.

Unlucky mate.

movilogo

Why there is an effort to "categorize" people who voted what?

People from every social class voted either Leave or Remain.

This is another liberal trick to make people believe only poors/lowly educated voted leave and riches/highly educated voted remain.

michaels

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Proving rather definitively that Turkeys really will vote for Christmas if you give them the opportunity.

As these are the very people that will pay the heaviest price for leaving the EU....

You are so right Hamish, when an employer in the service sector with a vacancy to fill can get unlimited eu labour at minimum wage rather than having to increase wages to attract local labour and is thus able to keep pices low for his middle class customes, it is the lower paid worker who gets no raise who benefits at the expense of the middle class customer who is forced to continue buying cheaper coffee......:rotfl:

Moby

Sapphire wrote: »

I agree. In passing, here's a sample of how some people I know (mostly Londoners) voted, for example:

1. One friend, who has three archaeology degrees (though has always been unambitious in terms of earning money), and has travelled extensively to places like Palestine as well as the Continent, voted Leave.

2. Another friend, who is a designer (with a degree) and recently completed another degree to change careers successfully to become a counsellor, voted Leave. She, like the person above, is very progressive (loads of gay friends, a woman of the world, etc.), and thought deeply about the vote. In the end, it came down mostly to sovereignty for these two, and a lack of belief in empires based on experiences with these.

3. Another friend who held a very senior position in a music company voted Leave.

4. A 30-year-old in my family (with a degree), when asked why he'd voted remain, said 'I might not be able to travel to other European countries, but I must find out more about it [the entire issue, that is!].'

5. Another of the same age voted leave (has a degree) because he is against the influx of so many people due to uncontrolled migration, which he feels will make the country go bust, as well as fuelling major discontent.

6. Two family members (artists) voted remain because they live in a very highly priced property (in an expensive area of London) and are afraid of things like drops in house prices. Both have degrees.

7. Another who is very affluent (lives in Islington, London, has an additional house in 'the country', and follows the PC affluent leftie doctrine), with inherited wealth, voted remain for similar reasons.

8. Two other people I know voted leave due to concerns about sovereignty (both people with degrees).

9. Another friend who is quite affluent and has a property in Slovenia voted remain.

10. A cousin and her husband in the New Forest area voted leave due to concerns about uncontrolled immigration and sovereignty (she has a property in France and came to this country about 15 years ago from Australia and other countries before that). She has a degree and is very clever; he doesn't have a degree.

I always groan when I see the 'people I know' post knowing it's actually code for what 'I' think.;)

Moby

Masomnia wrote: »

I wonder how many voted remain because they believe in closer political and economic integration with the EU. After all, that's what this is really about...

That's me:j
I have always believed in a United States of Europe as the ultimate prize!

mwpt

michaels wrote: »

You are so right Hamish, when an employer in the service sector with a vacancy to fill can get unlimited eu labour at minimum wage rather than having to increase wages to attract local labour and is thus able to keep pices low for his middle class customes, it is the lower paid worker who gets no raise who benefits at the expense of the middle class customer who is forced to continue buying cheaper coffee......:rotfl:

So you're saying that constraining the supply of labour is a way of giving people higher wages. If this worked, why would you need to go through all that effort, why not just mandate a higher minimum wage?

mwpt

movilogo wrote: »

Why there is an effort to "categorize" people who voted what?

People from every social class voted either Leave or Remain.

This is another liberal trick to make people believe only poors/lowly educated voted leave and riches/highly educated voted remain.

Another person who doesn't understand percentages.

And, those nasty liberals have been busy lately, eh?