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I have a growing feeling that Britain will NOT leave the EU

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  • Herzlos
    Herzlos Posts: 15,919 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Theresa May: 'We want a red, white and blue Brexit'

    What the bleeping bleep bleep does that actually mean?
  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    What the bleeping bleep bleep does that actually mean?

    Easy :D

    Red bus = NHS lies

    Blue bus = Migration lies

    White bus = Sovereignty lies
  • BNT
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    What the bleeping bleep bleep does that actually mean?

    Whatever the French tell her it means?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    Ah, we've done that though, we're leaving.

    Are the people to chose how we leave? Or are their representatives? Or are we just to let May get on with it?



    If by narrow minded terrified remoaners, you mean the law? then I guess I agree.

    We aren't leaving until article 50 is invoked.
    it seems reasonable to say then that the referendum instructed the government to invoke article 50 i.e. to leave
    as I understand it, invoking article 50 doesn't involve any other declaration about the detail of leaving.

    it seems reasonable that parliament should be involved on all other matters
  • BobQ
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    Matt_L wrote: »
    Im confused at how you think the government doesn't seem to have a plan??

    Ive heard TM state countless times that we will take back control of immigration, take control of our law making and trade with whom we wish, whilst having the best possible access to the single market..

    For me thats all i need to know:)

    Those are aspirational outcomes.
    How easily pleased you are!:)
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Ballard
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    Herzlos wrote: »
    What the bleeping bleep bleep does that actually mean?

    It's something that will appeal to Daily Mail/Express readers. Nothing more.
  • BobQ
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    Ballard wrote: »
    That's the whole point. TM wants to initiate A50 without consulting parliament. The courts have told her that it's unconstitutional but she's asked them to have another look just in case they've got it wrong and she does have the power. In my eyes it makes her look rather weak.

    One way or another we will leave the EU but there's no point in trying to circumvent the democracy that we are all so keen on to do it.

    I agree. There is a bigger issue here that some people seem content to ignore. Even if there is some ulterior motive behind the legal challenge, it is seeking to establish a fundamental principle of our constitution. If Teresa May is told that she does have the authority to use the royal perogative to repeal the European Act, sometine in the future, another Government will use that as a precedent to do something else.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Far too much focus on the legal, far too little focus on what the take home message was in the public mind on June 23rd.


    The take home message was that the people would decide, there was no reference to a sub clause or small print.


    The people will rise up as never before if the arrogant, authoritarian liberal establishment dares us. Liberal politics is extreme, it demanded we accept mass immigration without consent, it refused to engaged with the public mood, preferring instead to deride it.

    You are psychic too.:rotfl:
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Whether we leave or remain.


    We're leaving, but like others can still trade freely with the SM, but I stress again we'd be fine with WTO - given the other measures we will put in place such as freeports

    If it weren't for the narrow minded terrified remoaners, we'd be well under way

    We can still trade freely with the SM, no charge? Sounds like a plan. What sort of model do you have in mind?
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Sapphire
    Sapphire Posts: 4,269 Forumite
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    Conrad wrote: »
    Theresa May: 'We want a red, white and blue Brexit'

    Loving this

    Looks as though Minor F*rt (AKA Tim Farron, in anagram form) disagrees with you. :T:rotfl:
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