I have a growing feeling that Britain will NOT leave the EU

Thrugelmir

Shakethedisease wrote: »

She's probably right to have those concerns.

Won't the SNP abstain en masse?

Conrad

Italian Govt Minister today said the EU is collapsing.
The EU will fail just as did that other gaggle of disparate nations, the USSR.

kabayiri

Conrad wrote: »

Italian Govt Minister today said the EU is collapsing.
The EU will fail just as did that other gaggle of disparate nations, the USSR.

Paul Mason talks about a wider concern over Western democracies in the Guardian.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/05/soviet-union-collapsed-overnight-western-democracy-liberal-order-ussr-russia

The EU was constructed and developed during an era when the USSR was a major influence.

There is no guarantee that it is fit for a world where leaders like Putin; Trump; Erdogan; Orban exercise increasingly isolated stances on key issues.

Conrad

Far too much focus on the legal, far too little focus on what the take home message was in the public mind on June 23rd.


The take home message was that the people would decide, there was no reference to a sub clause or small print.


The people will rise up as never before if the arrogant, authoritarian liberal establishment dares us. Liberal politics is extreme, it demanded we accept mass immigration without consent, it refused to engaged with the public mood, preferring instead to deride it.

Rinoa

Conrad wrote: »

Italian Govt Minister today said the EU is collapsing.
The EU will fail just as did that other gaggle of disparate nations, the USSR.

Up, up and away.

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

The take home message was that the people would decide, there was no reference to a sub clause or small print.

Would decide *what*?

Conrad

Herzlos wrote: »

Would decide *what*?

Whether we leave or remain.


We're leaving, but like others can still trade freely with the SM, but I stress again we'd be fine with WTO - given the other measures we will put in place such as freeports

If it weren't for the narrow minded terrified remoaners, we'd be well under way

Conrad

Theresa May: 'We want a red, white and blue Brexit'




Loving this

Herzlos

Conrad wrote: »

Whether we leave or remain.

Ah, we've done that though, we're leaving.

Are the people to chose how we leave? Or are their representatives? Or are we just to let May get on with it?

If it weren't for the narrow minded terrified remoaners, we'd be well under way

If by narrow minded terrified remoaners, you mean the law? then I guess I agree.

mayonnaise

Conrad wrote: »

Theresa May: 'We want a red, white and blue Brexit'




Loving this

As meaningless as 'Brexit means Brexit'.