Seems like the Indians only want Brexit for one reason

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Not easy for business people to move abroad. Replicating what you've built is far from easy. If not impossible.

Much easier for business people to move abroad than the low paid. Especially if a lot of your business is in Europe.

In fact, it's probably never been easier to relocate a business.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Much easier for business people to move abroad than the low paid. Especially if a lot of your business is in Europe.

In fact, it's probably never been easier to relocate a business.

strange that about 8 million 'lower paid' people managed to move abroad and now live in the UK : there is no evidence that they all brought businesses with them.

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

strange that about 8 million 'lower paid' people managed to move abroad and now live in the UK : there is no evidence that they all brought businesses with them.

Note how I said that it's easier to move abroad if you're rich, not that it's a requirement.

Plus, of the 8 million foreigners in the UK, not all of them are "lower paid". Plenty will make more than you do :j

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Note how I said that it's easier to move abroad if you're rich, not that it's a requirement.

Plus, of the 8 million foreigners in the UK, not all of them are "lower paid". Plenty will make more than you do :j

actually you didn't say 'if you were rich' but lets not be picky

anyway do you have an stats about how well off immigrant people are on ARRIVAL in the uk?

Herzlos

CLAPTON wrote: »

actually you didn't say 'if you were rich' but lets not be picky

It's not up to me how you interpret the English language.

anyway do you have an stats about how well off immigrant people are on ARRIVAL in the uk?

Do you?

I know you have this view that all immigrants are unemployed and somehow stealing all of your jobs, services, benefits and property at once, but the statistics show that the immigrants pay more into the economy than they take out.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

It's not up to me how you interpret the English language.



Do you?

I know you have this view that all immigrants are unemployed and somehow stealing all of your jobs, services, benefits and property at once, but the statistics show that the immigrants pay more into the economy than they take out.

OK so you don't know the difference between emigrating whilst 'rich' and emigrating with a 'business'. I would expect nothing more from you.

You have NEVER seen a post of mine expressing your untruthful and contradictory views.

The statistics do NOT show that immigrants pay more into the economy than they take out and the statistics do NOT include the necessary infrastructure spending necessary to cater for large numbers.

Herzlos

Well if you've got different statistics to me, I don't think there's much point talking in circles, again.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Well if you've got different statistics to me, I don't think there's much point talking in circles, again.

House of Common Report 2008

Immigration has become highly significant to the UK economy: immigrants
comprise 12% of the total workforce—and a much higher proportion in London.
However, we have found no evidence for the argument, made by the Government,
business and many others, that net immigration—immigration minus emigration—
generates significant economic benefits for the existing UK population.
Overall GDP, which the Government has persistently emphasised, is an irrelevant
and misleading criterion for assessing the economic impacts of immigration on the
UK. The total size of an economy is not an index of prosperity. The focus of
analysis should rather be on the effects of immigration on income per head of the
resident population. Both theory and the available empirical evidence indicate that
these effects are small, especially in the long run when the economy fully adjusts to
the increased supply of labour. In the long run, the main economic effect of
immigration is to enlarge the economy, with relatively small costs and benefits for
the incomes of the resident population.
The economic impacts of immigration depend critically on the skills of
immigrants. Different types of immigrant can have very different impacts on the
economy. The issue is not whether immigration is needed but what level and type
of immigration is desirable. In this context, net immigration from the EU—which
we expect to remain positive—cannot be controlled. The question then is whether
additional immigration from elsewhere carries benefits or disadvantages.
Many businesses and public services at present make use of the skills and

https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200708/ldselect/ldeconaf/82/82.pdf

Herzlos

Thanks for a good source. It doesn't actually say that immigrants have a negative effect on the economy though, unless I'm failing at reading.

CLAPTON

Herzlos wrote: »

Thanks for a good source. It doesn't actually say that immigrants have a negative effect on the economy though, unless I'm failing at reading.

it doesn't say

I know you have this view that all immigrants are unemployed and somehow stealing all of your jobs, services, benefits and property at once, but the statistics show that the immigrants pay more into the economy than they take out.

my view is that immigration on the scale we have seen, does harm to the quality of life of the people in London and the SE in temrs of housing, access to essential services, massive costs of infrastructure etc.

This is quite separate to our lose of sovereignty