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  • dirty_magic
    dirty_magic Posts: 1,145 Forumite
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    catkins wrote: »
    It makes me laugh that people now have to go to Uni to become a paramedic. My OH was one over 30 years ago and he certainly did not have to go to Uni to become one.

    To be fair they're expected to do a lot more now than they used to and the volume and type of work has increased.
    The money has always been rubbish considering what they have to do. When I met OH I worked in an office and earned far more than he did.

    In London especially paramedics can be involved in far worse incidents than outside of London. My OH often got called to people under tubes which is not nice. Also shootings, stabbings, a siege, the Kings Cross fire.

    I know a paramedic who works in Essex and she can't believe some of the calls my OH got as hers are almost all pretty ordinary in comparison

    Any city is like this now! Stabbings and shootings are on the increase, and yet other services aren't given stab vests when London are. The genuine trauma calls still seem to be only a small part of the job though.

    Is your OH still a paramedic? I think it's more changing times than anything. Years ago people called ambulances because there was an emergency, now they call because their mental health is terrible and there's no one else to call, or they've had a painful leg for a while and can't get a doctor's appointment, or they called 111 to get advice on a sports injury and they sent an ambulance because 'it could be dvt' (this actually happened to my friend, she made them a cup of tea and sent them on their way!).
  • DigForVictory
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    Bricked!
    Very very happy for you & the soon-to-be-Mrs.Bricked - may it be a long & happy marriage, with longer than expected time to get to know your delighted father-in-law!
  • I am sorry, but I'd be very uneasy about how your gf has handled this, in spite of five years of living with her, in spite of her terrible situation. It still doesn't make all right her trying to force you to marry her. I've a lot of experience with manipulation.., and it never has a good outcome because the manipulated always knows it has happened, even when its something you would have done anyway., but as your choice and at your speed.
  • Dird
    Dird Posts: 2,703 Forumite
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    That's a million miles away from "can't live without her"
    So you'd rather he lied like anyone else who says that?

    I had written a response to OP then looked at later pages & realised no need. Good luck
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  • BrassicWoman
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    Dird wrote: »
    So you'd rather he lied like anyone else who says that?

    Erm, no, didn't say that anywhere!
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  • catkins
    catkins Posts: 5,703 Forumite
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    edited 31 October 2016 at 12:06PM
    They have been together 5 years. What exactly is the hold up in getting married? It doesn't take 5 years to know whether or not you want to be with someone does it?
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  • marisco_2
    marisco_2 Posts: 4,261 Forumite
    Bricked wrote: »
    The problem now being is the relationship to broken to fix this?



    In a word, yes. If your gf really loved you and shared the type of relationship with you that could go the distance she wouldn't be behaving this way. She is being incredibly childish and selfish over the biggest step and commitment that people make to each other. Spell it out to her that marrying you isn't for anyone else's benefit but hers and yours and that you wont be rushed into it. I am shocked that she suggested getting married for her fathers sake and then getting divorced. If that isn't the writing on the wall for how little she thinks of or cares about you I don't know what is.
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  • arbrighton
    arbrighton Posts: 2,011 Forumite
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    dktreesea wrote: »
    That's not it. I'nm sure there are plenty of out of work Brits who would jump at the chance to train as a paramedic. We just can't be bothered to train up British people who would like to be paramedics.


    We have a very short sighted government who think why bother to invest in our own people when there are plenty of already trained people from places like Poland willing to come over here and work instead.

    Absolute BULL. There are several training schemes - I am friends with a couple who have just done it. He was ambulance technician before so has upgraded. But they're in the southeast and would struggle with a mortgage for sure. Oh, and there are some ridiculous entry requirements for the scheme
  • Person_one
    Person_one Posts: 28,884 Forumite
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    arbrighton wrote: »
    Absolute BULL. There are several training schemes - I am friends with a couple who have just done it. He was ambulance technician before so has upgraded. But they're in the southeast and would struggle with a mortgage for sure. Oh, and there are some ridiculous entry requirements for the scheme

    Is this in one of the areas where ambulance technicians are being phased out so they have to choose whether to train up to full paramedic or take a pay cut and a demotion to 'emergency care assistant'?

    If so, its hardly a shining example of how well funded the ambulance services are with loads of opportunities for anyone!
  • tea_lover
    tea_lover Posts: 8,261 Forumite
    dktreesea wrote: »
    Leaving out those who don't get in because they don't make the grade, it still leaves a whole lot of fantastic, appropriately qualified candidates who don't get a place. And part of the reason for that is a pretty much unlimited stream of appropriately qualified and experienced paramedics from the rest of the world willing to come here.


    Why should we be providing jobs for the rest of the world when we have our own people who want to train in the discipline but can't get a place?


    It's not just would be paramedics or NHS workers who are missing out. mechanics, engineers, scientists, teachers, you name it, we import them rather than train enough of our own to meet demand. That may well make economic sense in the short term but it's a disaster going forward.

    Some of us see all people as 'our own', rather than focusing on arbitrary and shifting borders.
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