Offers to Asia on finnair - BKK from £455

budgetflyer

We flew back from Delhi to Helsinki. Maybe a one off, but the most miserable crew I have ever encountered

dickydonkin

Alice_Walker wrote: »

I trust OP you have no objections to Qatar Airways?

I suspect not - unless you are flying in a Y cabin on their B787 aircraft.

richardw

Qatar Airways operate narrow seat B787 and B777 aircraft on the BHX-DOH-BKK routing.

FunTime

FinnAir economy seat report on SeatGuru:

the seat have to be 17 Width no way it is 18 Width. slim seat to slim chair is too thin. . walk the path in the plane is to tight

Here's a video of the cabin:

https://www.targetmytravel.com/media-all/videos?m=N5B9B

Infidel

A_T wrote: »

Thanks for the advice. I did and found several a lot cheaper.

I was searching UK BKK several days ago and could have flown yesterday for £255 (booking just 3 days in advance - at the time of searching).

dickydonkin

Infidel wrote: »

I was searching UK BKK several days ago and could have flown yesterday for £255 (booking just 3 days in advance - at the time of searching).

Which would have been an excellent price.........if you wanted to fly yesterday.

dickydonkin

FunTime wrote: »

Decided to do a dummy booking comparison with FinnAir and Oman Air on their respective websites.

Chose 05/11/2016 to 20/11/2016 London to Bangkok.

FinnAir comes up at £550. Oman Air at £396. Scrapped that as obviously FinnAir doesn't offer a sale fare on that day. So will look for a FinnAir sale fare for comparison.

Chose 05/11/2016 to 21/11/2016 London to Bangkok so as to choose a FinnAir sale fare.

FinnAir £472. Oman Air £396. Oh but at the £472 fare, the FinnAir outbound flight is 29 hours and 40 minutes. If I want a duration to match with Oman Air, that will be another £90 please. Will try again.

Ok...found a FinnAir sale fare at £455; 16/10/2016 to 31/10/2016...again outbound 29 hours 40 minutes.
Will keep looking....ok, found a sale fare with 17 hours and 45 minutes outbound, so we'll go with that.

London to Bangkok 17/10/2016 to 31/10/2016
FinnAir £455 Oman Air £376

FinnAir flight duration including stopovers: 17hrs 45 mins & 15 hours 5 minutes

Oman Air flight duration including stopovers:15hr 55 minutes & 16 hours 50 minutes

FinnAir baggage allowance 23 kgs
Oman Air baggage allowance 30 kgs

FinnAir fare conditions: Non refundable and no changes possible.
Oman Air fare conditions: £150 for refund and no shows. £100 for changes.


So why should we choose FinnAir over say, Oman Air?

You could compare many airlines on a daily basis on a given route and the prices can and do fluctuate - sometimes dramatically.

For me, I would likely opt for the One World carrier as I would get lounge access, Tier Points and Avios although I have to concede that the majority of my Eastbound trips are ex EU on Qatar although there can be some excellent deals to be had on Finnair to BKK, particularly in J.

Some don't like the connections in the Middle East, but I don't mind them provided the layovers are not protracted.

I appreciate that this is a money saving site, but for me anyway, the cost of the flight is not as important as other factors such as safety, service and occasionally the type of aircraft and seating.

FunTime

dickydonkin wrote: »

You could compare many airlines on a daily basis on a given route and the prices can and do fluctuate - sometimes dramatically.

For me, I would likely opt for the One World carrier as I would get lounge access, Tier Points and Avios although I have to concede that the majority of my Eastbound trips are ex EU on Qatar although there can be some excellent deals to be had on Finnair to BKK, particularly in J.

Some don't like the connections in the Middle East, but I don't mind them provided the layovers are not protracted.

I appreciate that this is a money saving site, but for me anyway, the cost of the flight is not as important as other factors such as safety, service and occasionally the type of aircraft and seating.

?? What? The FinnAir ticket is supposed to be a bargain remember?
I also searched extensively to find a FinnAir sale fare in so I could find a corresponding date for the other airlines. So I think it was a fair comparison, even skewed in favour of FinnAir.

Perhaps people flying with other carriers also get lounge access. Either way, you are paying £100 for the privilege of that access. You could pay for lounge access and have change left over.
You post is verging on the abstract.
I meant particularly FinnAir and particularly Oman Air and why someone would consider paying £100 extra a bargain.
With this, you can more easily quantify safety, service and aircraft.

Otherwise, we could bring THAI and EVA in to the discussion and talk about the benefits and pitfalls of flying direct.

I too collect AVIOS, but we have already established that the FinnAir flight would contribute little in that direction.

So with all that, it appears you can show no reason as to why you would select that FinnAir flight for £100 more.

dickydonkin

FunTime wrote: »

?? What? The FinnAir ticket is supposed to be a bargain remember?
I also searched extensively to find a FinnAir sale fare in so I could find a corresponding date for the other airlines. So I think it was a fair comparison, even skewed in favour of FinnAir.

Perhaps people flying with other carriers also get lounge access. Either way, you are paying £100 for the privilege of that access. You could pay for lounge access and have change left over.
You post is verging on the abstract.
I meant particularly FinnAir and particularly Oman Air and why someone would consider paying £100 extra a bargain.
With this, you can more easily quantify safety, service and aircraft.

Otherwise, we could bring THAI and EVA in to the discussion and talk about the benefits and pitfalls of flying direct.

I too collect AVIOS, but we have already established that the FinnAir flight would contribute little in that direction.

So with all that, it appears you can show no reason as to why you would select that FinnAir flight for £100 more.

You have missed my point completely, read through my post again and I have clearly highlighted why some people may pay more for a flight even though they could get to the same destination cheaper.

I never suggested the Finnair flight was a bargain because it isn't . What I was attempting to suggest that it would not be unusual for the prices you quoted to be totally different in the coming days or weeks. You have focused too much on two airlines prices on a given day.

I could show you greater variances between two airlines prices, but that is a pointless exercise,

As for lounge access, some terminals do not have pay to enter lounges so if you are flying economy or not an elite member (horrible terminology I know) of an airline or alliance, that may not be an option.

As I alluded to in my previous post about the Avios, you are quite correct that the Finnair flight would not yield many Avios, however, I also highlighted the tier points which for me as a BAEC member is a significant factor in deciding what flight I take.

The benefits of flying direct are obvious, but again, as I mentioned in my earlier post, it is not an issue for many - certainly not for me particularly when harvesting tier points. I would get 560 tier points flying from Europe with Qatar to SE Asia, whereas compared with say BA, I would get 280, and in general, QR's prices are better and certainly the seating, food and service in QR's J cabin is on a different planet to BA,

For the specific route you are describing and the price difference ON A GIVEN DAY, I too would not take the Finnair route as I don't feel it is a very competitive price, nor would I likely select the Oman Air option either - despite the price being reasonable, but for many, the time, routings, loyalty and other factors (particularly dealing with IRROPS) may be the deciding factors that sway ther decision - not the price - and that is what I was attempting to explain.

I know the likes of Ryanair and Easyjet can offer very cheap fares to the same destinations that BA serve, but many loyal BA customers would not consider the LCC's, although that might change in the near future with the cost cutting tha BA are implementing which in many people's eyes, they are heading down the LCC route in many ways.

I am waiting to book some flights for next year with my preferred airlines and at the current time, their prices are ridiculous, but from experience of many years of playing the waiting game, I know what I am willing to pay and I also know that the price will come down significantly - whether that is via a sale or more likely flying EX eu.

If all airlines were continuously more expensive than their competitors, they would simply go out of business.

Alice_Walker

richardw wrote: »

Qatar Airways operate narrow seat B787 and B777 aircraft on the BHX-DOH-BKK routing.

Yet they continue to outrank Finnair and 90% of other airlines in their feedback.

You posted a poor deal and rather than admit it wasn't the best you've gone round in circles making up the silliest of excuses to dimiss every other (far better) deal. You're making yourself look most foolish.