Brexiters should be 'Ashamed of the harm to come"

CLAPTON

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Surely if we have a huge trade deficit its the opposite, it didn't benefit us?

no idea what you mean

countries don't trade
private people or companies trade and they only do so if they perceive a benefit


if the result means there is a trade deficit then usually the market will cause the value of the pound to reduce until such time as the situation is corrected.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Surely if we have a huge trade deficit its the opposite, it didn't benefit us?

We have a trade deficit with the EU in goods but a large trade surplus with the EU in services.

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

why would two parties trade with each other if both were not getting an advantage?

Currently we're selling a few products with large negative margins.

We continue to trade because we hope trading conditions will improve and/ or become more clear in the future. I could find a few reasons why this might be advantageous but I'd have to turn my sunny personality switch to full to do so.

A_Medium_Size_Jock

wotsthat wrote: »

Currently we're selling a few products with large negative margins.

We continue to trade because we hope trading conditions will improve and/ or become more clear in the future. I could find a few reasons why this might be advantageous but I'd have to turn my sunny personality switch to full to do so.

Evidence to support that claim please?
Especially the first line.

ruggedtoast

I would like a Brexiter to explain in what way they have been oppressed by the EU and also give an actual example of even one incidence where their actual source of employment (ie something they actually know about, not a bunch of laymen stuttering nonsense about export policies to places they couldn't find on a map) has been compromised due to the single market.

wotsthat

A_Medium_Size_Jock wrote: »

Evidence to support that claim please?
Especially the first line.

I'm talking about some products I sell into the UK purchased in US$.

One advantage of doing this is that if I were to resign the business the packaging write-offs would be higher than trading a negative product margin. Need to look very hard to see the advantage.

wotsthat

The food industry is about to do their bit for obesity by reducing pack sizes as retailers won't accept price point increases.

The consumer gets shafted because, oftentimes, exactly the same amount of packaging is used per portion. However, the retailers judge (probably correctly) that UK consumers aren't savvy enough to notice.

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

I'm talking about some products I sell into the UK purchased in US$.

One advantage of doing this is that if I were to resign the business the packaging write-offs would be higher than trading a negative product margin. Need to look very hard to see the advantage.

surely this is your usual business and you plan for currency fluctuations as part of your business procedures : you have had the enmorous benefit of my repeated posts about the huge balance of trade deficits and the dangers of relying on capital transfers to balcance the books

I'm sure though, if at the end of the process, this isn't profitable you will change your business model (or go bankrupt)

CLAPTON

wotsthat wrote: »

The food industry is about to do their bit for obesity by reducing pack sizes as retailers won't accept price point increases.

The consumer gets shafted because, oftentimes, exactly the same amount of packaging is used per portion. However, the retailers judge (probably correctly) that UK consumers aren't savvy enough to notice.

seems equally reasonable to either increase the price of the whole packet as to reduce the size and maintain the price.
what do you consider the 'right' price should be?

Conrad

wotsthat wrote: »

The food industry is about to do their bit for obesity by reducing pack sizes as retailers won't accept price point increases.

The consumer gets shafted because, oftentimes, exactly the same amount of packaging is used per portion. However, the retailers judge (probably correctly) that UK consumers aren't savvy enough to notice.

Many certainly aren't savvy when it comes to their own health, that's for sure. There's a chain of dessert shops opening called Kaspers and these places are rammed with Mums buying fattening, diabetes inducing great puds for their children, often on way home from school. A Woman in the town here proudly wheels about her baby and stops every now and then to unfold a large pack of cheese puffs and inserts one into the baby's mouth as if it's the most natural thing in the world. Brainless child neglect (see last night BBC programme on the diabetes epidemic - people getting feet sawn off etc).


We need to be reducing portion sizes and far more besides.