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Brexiters should be 'Ashamed of the harm to come"
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HAMISH_MCTAVISH
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/21/leavers-brexit-ashamed-harm-yet-to-comeIt has been well established that the leading Brexiters, especially Box-Office Boris, lied their way right through the campaign and thoroughly misled people, contributing to an outbreak of buyer’s remorse.
But it is also obvious that there are many older people who manifest not an iota of remorse about the chaos they have helped to create, not least for their grandchildren.
As the article goes on to point out, many Brexiteers are taking false comfort from the fact that Osborne has departed and the 'emergency budget' has been delayed.... Or worse from a few backwards looking economic indicators while the forward looking ones plummet.
But they shouldn't....
Hammond will now almost certainly be forced into taking on huge additional debts to try and put the economy back on track in the Autumn statement - a high risk strategy for the country that will burden people's children and grandchildren with additional debt - because as the IFS and BOE have already identified, real damage is now starting to occur in the economy and we haven't even left yet.
An analysis of the costs of Brexit was released this week and showed it's entirely likely we'll end up paying more to stay out of Europe than we paid to stay in - only with no say in the process or veto over the rules.
The Brexit vote remains nothing other than an act of economic and social vandalism.... Which will have terrible consequences to Britain for generations to come.
“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”
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Let's re-visit all this inane cowardly nonsense in a years time, arf, arf.
What investor would consider the EU less risky given at least six nations could well have thier own referendum, let alone the inherent failure of the centralised leviathan. Whilst Hamish wallows in negativity let's embrace our autonomy and clink glasses to the new prosperity.
The EU doesn't even know where to go next. The liberals such as ex Belgian PM want more Brussells but people such as the German Foreign Minister argue for less Brussels, what a joke0 -
PS If gloom mongers stopped being terrified of UK autonomy we'd be doing even better. Most will come round soon though and stop putting thier lives on hold.0
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OP should be ashamed of the amount of nonsense posted.
:T:T:T
Yup, that headline fits MUCH better.0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/21/leavers-brexit-ashamed-harm-yet-to-come
As the article goes on to point out, many Brexiteers are taking false comfort from the fact that Osborne has departed and the 'emergency budget' has been delayed.... Or worse from a few backwards looking economic indicators while the forward looking ones plummet.
But they shouldn't....
Hammond will now almost certainly be forced into taking on huge additional debts to try and put the economy back on track in the Autumn statement - a high risk strategy for the country that will burden people's children and grandchildren with additional debt - because as the IFS and BOE have already identified, real damage is now starting to occur in the economy and we haven't even left yet.
An analysis of the costs of Brexit was released this week and showed it's entirely likely we'll end up paying more to stay out of Europe than we paid to stay in - only with no say in the process or veto over the rules.
The Brexit vote remains nothing other than an act of economic and social vandalism.... Which will have terrible consequences to Britain for generations to come.
:rotfl::rotfl:
Is that really Hamish, or has Ruggedtoast hacked into his account.If I don't reply to your post,
you're probably on my ignore list.0 -
Even if some compromise is reached, it seems quite possible that leaving the EU, however much many of us may wish it, could still be more costly to us than remaining. All that is certain is that it will not leave us with many pennies to spare for the NHS.
So much for that poor lady in the North East interviewed on Sky News saying she'd "go mad" if the NHS didn't get the £350m a week extra that the Brexiteers promised.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Shouldn't you be spending your time thinking about the great future you're planning under an independent Scotland and an eternity of left wing governments?
Why do you care what the UK does any more?0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/21/leavers-brexit-ashamed-harm-yet-to-come
As the article goes on to point out, many Brexiteers are taking false comfort from the fact that Osborne has departed and the 'emergency budget' has been delayed.... Or worse from a few backwards looking economic indicators while the forward looking ones plummet.
But they shouldn't....
Hammond will now almost certainly be forced into taking on huge additional debts to try and put the economy back on track in the Autumn statement - a high risk strategy for the country that will burden people's children and grandchildren with additional debt - because as the IFS and BOE have already identified, real damage is now starting to occur in the economy and we haven't even left yet.
An analysis of the costs of Brexit was released this week and showed it's entirely likely we'll end up paying more to stay out of Europe than we paid to stay in - only with no say in the process or veto over the rules.
The Brexit vote remains nothing other than an act of economic and social vandalism.... Which will have terrible consequences to Britain for generations to come.
since you just love and trust the Guardian so much why not read and discuss the 40 years of damage the EU has been doing to the poor African countries due to the EU agricultural program.
Like EU racism and discrimination you will probably find it amusing
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/poverty-matters/2011/oct/11/eu-agriculture-hurts-developing-countries0 -
HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »
If you actually look back at the forecasts of economists such as the BoE, IMF, etc they only ever said their "might" or "could" be a recession. No-one (other than politicians) ever said there "would" be a recession.
As for William Reegan - he should stick to fiction writing - because there is very little factual information in this article - it's just a grumpy old man rant worthy of Victor Meldrew.0 -
the Guardian is still persisting with its crusade to see us fail? i did actually read an article in there to the contrary yesterday
If they keep printing it, it will happen, they hope0 -
Hammond will now almost certainly be forced into taking on huge additional debts to try and put the economy back on track in the Autumn statement
Is the economy on track? The economy is far from balanced. Even Osborne hadn't figured out how to bridge the budget deficit. Never was going to achieve a balanced budget by 2020. Progress is being made but it's slow.0
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