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Brexiters should be 'Ashamed of the harm to come"

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  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
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    Well i, for one, believe in this country.


    We will be great again.

    Not sure that we will ever be great (or ever were great) but I also believe in this country. But wrapping yourself in a Union Flag and saying that Brexit is great is a different matter.

    The Brexit vote will not make Britain great again. It will damage our influence in an interconnected world. As I said before an act of Bravado for which we will later pay a price.
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  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    BobQ wrote: »
    That will become apparent in the coming years as the experts are proven correct.

    If we accept that the views of these experts is correct and will come to pass, then what do you think we should do?

    Sit and wait for it to happen or proactively develop new strategies to avoid or mitigate?

    Of course the standard remoaners response is to sit nodding in a corner rambling to oneself, but you seem like a sensible chap, so what do you think we should do to make Brexit work?
    (You can't say don't Brexit)
  • Masomnia
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    BobQ wrote: »
    That will become apparent in the coming years as the experts are proven correct.

    I think it depends on what we're talking about. The guff about the stock market not opening the next morning after the vote, the emergency budget and the £ falling 20% didn't happen.

    Similarly if I worked in the Treasury I would be ashamed to put my name to that 'households will be £4,300 worse off' figure.

    Will GDP be a bit lower than if we were members? I think in the short term it probably will be, maybe even a short technical recession, but unfortunately there's no way of proving either way long term.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • chucknorris
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    edited 24 August 2016 at 3:28AM
    BobQ wrote: »
    The Brexit vote will not make Britain great again.

    As far as I am aware the 'Great' originated from being distinguished from Brittany in France and also from the Greeks distinguishing us from Ireland, it would take either Brittany or Ireland to somehow end up having a larger land mass than mainland Britain for us to cease being 'Great' Britain.
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  • prowla
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    Apparently tourism has jumped.
  • Crashy_Time
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    mwpt wrote: »
    Could you please share with us what "again" means? Which period to you believe we were a greater nation than now? Which period are you hoping to emulate by becoming great "again"?


    When how we voted in this country was enacted by politicians based in this country who got turfed out if they stuffed up would be a start IMO.
  • kinger101
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    When how we voted in this country was enacted by politicians based in this country who got turfed out if they stuffed up would be a start IMO.

    Are you feeling alright? You've actually said something quite sensible.
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  • mwpt
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    When how we voted in this country was enacted by politicians based in this country who got turfed out if they stuffed up would be a start IMO.

    So, care to drop the politic speak and tell us an exact era or time period you think was best and when Britain was great, that we should aspire to achieve "again"?
  • posh*spice
    posh*spice Posts: 1,398 Forumite
    mwpt wrote: »
    Could you please share with us what "again" means? Which period to you believe we were a greater nation than now? Which period are you hoping to emulate by becoming great "again"?
    How about a balance of payments surplus? A budget surplus? A nation not up to their eyeballs in debt?
    Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you.
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
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    posh*spice wrote: »
    How about a balance of payments surplus? A budget surplus? A nation not up to their eyeballs in debt?

    Please, be specific. We've had enough of politicians and their hand waving misdirection vague mumblings. Which period was this in that we should try to emulate "again"?
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