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Brexiters should be 'Ashamed of the harm to come"

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  • prowla
    prowla Posts: 14,018 Forumite
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    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/aug/21/leavers-brexit-ashamed-harm-yet-to-come

    As the article goes on to point out, many Brexiteers are taking false comfort from the fact that Osborne has departed and the 'emergency budget' has been delayed.... Or worse from a few backwards looking economic indicators while the forward looking ones plummet.

    But they shouldn't....

    Hammond will now almost certainly be forced into taking on huge additional debts to try and put the economy back on track in the Autumn statement - a high risk strategy for the country that will burden people's children and grandchildren with additional debt - because as the IFS and BOE have already identified, real damage is now starting to occur in the economy and we haven't even left yet.

    An analysis of the costs of Brexit was released this week and showed it's entirely likely we'll end up paying more to stay out of Europe than we paid to stay in - only with no say in the process or veto over the rules.

    The Brexit vote remains nothing other than an act of economic and social vandalism.... Which will have terrible consequences to Britain for generations to come.
    Ah, the minority lecturing the majority (again).

    The remain group lied and used negative tactics throughout the campaign; when I decided to remove all of that from my considerations, I found that they had actually said nothing at all; it was probably the worst campaign I've ever seen.
  • Stevie_Palimo
    Stevie_Palimo Posts: 3,306 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    I actually find your post very rude and patronising Hamish Mctavish, We are all entitled to an opinion but yours is just plain ignorance at its best.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    setmefree2 wrote: »
    Just out of interest, if there was a second referendum would you vote Leave?
    Now that I learned that the brexit vote was so strongly rooted in compassionate concern for the average African farmer, I might vote Leave, yes. :)
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    Do you have no moral compass whatsoever?
    does it not appall you have people have no clean water supply
    that children walk for an hour to collect filthy water
    that they can't go to school

    and to know that many of these people are suffering simply and ONLY because you vote for a EU had artificially puts the politics of german and french farmers above that of simple trade.

    It is quite appalling. It's just that you aren't convincing anyone, even your UKIP voting, Brexit choosing, buddies, that you could care less about it yourself.

    The 'Brexit will save the world' sound bite was one of the numerous official justifications (or lies as they are otherwise called) that emerged from UKIP Central that even they were so uncommitted to that it promptly was forgotten about amidst the swivel eyed xenophobia. Which is what they are much more interested in.

    I appreciate it must be hard for you swimming against the tide at all those UKIP rallies as your Oxfam and Save The Panda leaflets are trampled under foot by purple faced retired colonels but really Clapton, if you want to do something to help the disadvantaged you need to take a look at the company you keep.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    You know when this all goes 'tits up' The Brexiteers defence will be 'The govt shouldn't have given us the opportunity to vote out' I am already hearing it :) I must say I have some sympathy with that though. A disgrace to gamble with the future of this country to gain a few votes :(
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Well i, for one, believe in this country.


    We will be great again.
    What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare
  • mwpt
    mwpt Posts: 2,502 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary Combo Breaker
    Well i, for one, believe in this country.

    We will be great again.

    Could you please share with us what "again" means? Which period to you believe we were a greater nation than now? Which period are you hoping to emulate by becoming great "again"?
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    edited 23 August 2016 at 5:59PM
    It is quite appalling. It's just that you aren't convincing anyone, even your UKIP voting, Brexit choosing, buddies, that you could care less about it yourself.

    The 'Brexit will save the world' sound bite was one of the numerous official justifications (or lies as they are otherwise called) that emerged from UKIP Central that even they were so uncommitted to that it promptly was forgotten about amidst the swivel eyed xenophobia. Which is what they are much more interested in.

    I appreciate it must be hard for you swimming against the tide at all those UKIP rallies as your Oxfam and Save The Panda leaflets are trampled under foot by purple faced retired colonels but really Clapton, if you want to do something to help the disadvantaged you need to take a look at the company you keep.

    it must be difficult for you to image that anyone cares about something other than toxic hatred of virtually all the world.
    have who tried talking to mum and dad yet :
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    mwpt wrote: »
    Could you please share with us what "again" means? Which period to you believe we were a greater nation than now? Which period are you hoping to emulate by becoming great "again"?

    The Nations wealth we still enjoy today didn't come from sheep farming. ;)
  • BobQ
    BobQ Posts: 11,181 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    PaulW1965 wrote: »
    Evidence??????

    That will become apparent in the coming years as the experts are proven correct.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
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