An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn

kabayiri

westernpromise wrote: »

It's also worth pointing out, as I think it may have been me who brought up the number of seats Corbyn needs, that the 50 to 70 seats Tory seats Labour needs to win is only that low a number because we've assumed they win back all the SNP's seats in Scotland. That is humongously remote in itself - Labour is basically dead in Scotland. Otherwise it would be not 70 but 120-odd seats.

Agreed.

Big challenges in Scotland.

Rise of UKIP in NE England and elsewhere.

Just why do Labour think the numbers will work for them?

Corbyn represents London IMO.

ruggedtoast

setmefree2 wrote: »

Apparently the youth vote went to Owen Smith.

So RT you really are a party made up of old boomer middle class Trots!

You and your Mrs must be so proud of yourselves

Hundreds of thousands of people were disenfranchised due to NEC anti democracy actions.

A great many of these are young people.

You are nuts if you think we don't have the youth vote.

ruggedtoast

The right wing boomers are in meltdown!

Corbyn returned with a colossal mandate.

The PLP finally bowing their heads.

Tories in general disarray.

Labour is now a left wing party once more. The Blairites are swept aside.

Change is coming to Britain.

Robisere

The Labour Party is an ex-parrot. Does anyone seriously think that the people of Britain will vote for a party led by a dinosaur fossil whose political ideas were buried after 1951? Corbyn is trying to fight battles lost in the 1930's. Yes, the Tories are a domineering bunch of careerists who will cut and cut again, but the new PM is trying to put the country on a sound footing. In view of the damage done by both sides of the Brexit campaign, we need leadership, not agitators.

The people who voted in Corbyn, were those who joined the Party with that specific aim. They were guided by agitators.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Labour is now a left wing party once more. The Blairites are swept aside.

Change is coming to Britain.

Blairite Labour was the only Labour capable of winning a GE in the last 40 years....

The change that's coming to Britain is the Tories bedding in for another generation in power if Labour doesn't get back to the middle ground.

bobbymotors

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The right wing boomers are in meltdown!

Corbyn returned with a colossal mandate.

The PLP finally bowing their heads.

Tories in general disarray.

Labour is now a left wing party once more. The Blairites are swept aside.

Change is coming to Britain.

Dear rugged you are either obviously dyslexic or as thick as a workhouse pi$$pot

It's all very well putting up headlines but:

Here we go again, in bold. And italics. And underlined.

Where has hard left socialism ever worked or is working now? UNANSWERED

where's the money going to come from? 2% ANSWERED

Which 60 seats is the new leader going to capture from the vile Tories? UNANSWERED

Cant answer can you? Rhetoric is cheap, but that's all you've got, just rhetoric, no answers.

Thrugelmir

ruggedtoast wrote: »

The right wing boomers are in meltdown!

Corbyn returned with a colossal mandate.

The PLP finally bowing their heads.

Tories in general disarray.

Labour is now a left wing party once more. The Blairites are swept aside.

Change is coming to Britain.

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Labour is in meltdown. Total disarray. Heading the way of the Liberal party.

Voyager2002

Robisere wrote: »

The Labour Party is an ex-parrot. Does anyone seriously think that the people of Britain will vote for a party led by a dinosaur fossil whose political ideas were buried after 1951? Corbyn is trying to fight battles lost in the 1930's. Yes, the Tories are a domineering bunch of careerists who will cut and cut again, but the new PM is trying to put the country on a sound footing. In view of the damage done by both sides of the Brexit campaign, we need leadership, not agitators.

The people who voted in Corbyn, were those who joined the Party with that specific aim. They were guided by agitators.

Well, my involvement with the Party goes back to 1966 and I joined most recently in 2014. I voted Corbyn, and am of course delighted by the result. And no, no-one is 'guiding' me.

Oh: the ideas that Corbyn expresses were pretty mainstream in the 1970s in the UK and are today in most of Europe. If he ever does become PM, then people afterwards will be amazed that anyone regarded him as some kind of extremist.

LHW99

the ideas that Corbyn expresses were pretty mainstream in the 1970s in the UK

So 40 years ago!

Fella

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Blairite Labour was the only Labour capable of winning a GE in the last 40 years....

The change that's coming to Britain is the Tories bedding in for another generation in power if Labour doesn't get back to the middle ground.

Altho there is a line of reasoning (which I support) that whoever follows Corbyn is going to seem so wonderful in comparison that they'll sweep the board. Corbyn may end up being what was needed to take away the taste of new labour.

If he loses or gets somehow booted & someone like Umunna takes over he's going to seem like manna (Umunna?) from heaven to anyone & everyone who won't vote Tory or Corbyn. Esp now that UKIP have been rendered pointless & the libdems haven't yet finished paying for Student Loan Gate....