An Evening With... Jeremy Corbyn

michaels

Everyone seems very sure if themselves.

Is there definitely no popular following for far left policies? Issue by issue deeply socialist policies often elicit popular support. Sanders was not far away in the US and would not have been crucified but Trump - and that is the US of A the home of capitalism. Given the internet I am not convinced the main stream media really offer a good reflection.

And of course there is still the assumption that the tories win't implode over europe when the brexiteers realise just how much 'brexit' actually looks like remain. Plus the tories rather than parking their tanks on the empty middle griund are heading off to the right on the basis that there is no opposition to worry about.

I would be very surprised if we don't get a general election next spring (March 24th) with a tory manifesto of what they will try to negotiate for when they trigger article 50 after the election.

Rinoa

Traditional Labour supporters don't support Corbyn.

Labour has effectively been taken over.

bobbymotors

michaels wrote: »

Everyone seems very sure if themselves.

Is there definitely no popular following for far left policies? Issue by issue deeply socialist policies often elicit popular support. Sanders was not far away in the US and would not have been crucified but Trump - and that is the US of A the home of capitalism. Given the internet I am not convinced the main stream media really offer a good reflection.

And of course there is still the assumption that the tories win't implode over europe when the brexiteers realise just how much 'brexit' actually looks like remain. Plus the tories rather than parking their tanks on the empty middle griund are heading off to the right on the basis that there is no opposition to worry about.

I would be very surprised if we don't get a general election next spring (March 24th) with a tory manifesto of what they will try to negotiate for when they trigger article 50 after the election.

Great. Fancy a bit of 9/2 for charity? Your £100 to my £450 that Corbyn will not be PM after the next election or May 2020 whichever comes first.

JC is absolutely unelectable.

bobbymotors

Sanders is right wing compared to Corbyn.

wotsthat

Shock news headlines. MSE posters who have always voted Tory will continue to do so whoever leads the Labour Party.

michaels

wotsthat wrote: »

Shock news headlines. MSE posters who have always voted Tory will continue to do so whoever leads the Labour Party.

Yep, whether it was for Cameron or BLair before him they always voted for a tory....

setmefree2

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Your children and grandchildren are being Corbynised, and we are Corbynising more each week.

If one group is young and growing and the other is old and shrinking, what happens to the eventual balance?

Apparently the youth vote went to Owen Smith.

Owen Smith Won The Leadership Election Among Pre-2015 Members And Under-24s

Smith had a 55-45 lead over Corbyn among younger voters , a stark contrast with the perception that the Labour leader has won round the under-24s during his popular campaign of rallies across the country.

The survey found that 63% of pre-2015 party members had backed the Pontypridd MP, to just 37% for Corbyn

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/owen-smith-exit-poll-jeremy-corbyn-yougov-electiondata_uk_57e652e2e4b0e81629a9d393

So RT you really are a party made up of old boomer middle class Trots!

You and your Mrs must be so proud of yourselves

setmefree2

Wild_Rover wrote: »

The Tories - Hell, even the LibDems :rotfl: will tear Labour to shreds.

The LibDems are already winning at a local level and taking council seats off Labour. 6 so far. This is not showing up in Opinion polls at a national level yet but that is probably because Tim Farron is pretty useless too.

westernpromise

bobbymotors wrote: »

Rugged is entitled to believe anything he wants...we're allowed to do that here.

However it seems he can only spout abuse and vitriol rather than reasoned argument, which is a shame, as if the arguments stood up to reason, more on here would be with him.

We still await your answers rugged:

Where's the money coming from?

Where are the 50 -70 seats that JC needs to win from the tories?

Where is left wing socialism working and where has it ever worked?

It's also worth pointing out, as I think it may have been me who brought up the number of seats Corbyn needs, that the 50 to 70 seats Tory seats Labour needs to win is only that low a number because we've assumed they win back all the SNP's seats in Scotland. That is humongously remote in itself - Labour is basically dead in Scotland. Otherwise it would be not 70 but 120-odd seats.

Fella

The top podcast first segment here is really worth listening to. Very insightful stuff & bang on:

https://soundcloud.com/the-spectator-podcast