Benefit Fraud

Guest101

chelseablue wrote: »

Situation is:


A mum of 2 children claims she is a single parent living alone, so she has all her rent paid for (approx. £800 a month) plus she receives benefits for the children, I don't know how much Child Tax Credit she receives.


But her partner does live with her (7 nights a week he's there) plus he has a full time job, so he gives her money for bills, food etc

The relevant point is, does he have his own main residence?


She can have a visitor 365 days of the year, but if he maintains his own property where he pays council tax, utilities etc. then He's not 'living' there, he's staying there.

chelseablue

Guest101 wrote: »

The relevant point is, does he have his own main residence?


She can have a visitor 365 days of the year, but if he maintains his own property where he pays council tax, utilities etc. then He's not 'living' there, he's staying there.

No he doesn't have a separate main residence, or own property to maintain.


For his bank account and mobile he uses his Mum's address.


But he has not spent a night at his Mum's house for at least 3 years

Caroline_a

Many years ago I knew someone who investigated benefit fraud. Someone said that they watch the house, and certainly at this time he used to do this for fraud cases. They also at that time (although it may have changed now) had the power of entry into people's houses any time of day or night and I remember him telling me that they would go very early in the morning, go upstairs and feel under the bedcovers to see if it was warm on both sides! Yuk....

Wouldn't be a job for me I have to say, but I do agree that in the case that you've cited they are well aware of the rules and the consequences of being found out too.

I would report them.

Mojisola

Caroline_a wrote: »

Many years ago I knew someone who investigated benefit fraud. Someone said that they watch the house, and certainly at this time he used to do this for fraud cases. They also at that time (although it may have changed now) had the power of entry into people's houses any time of day or night and I remember him telling me that they would go very early in the morning, go upstairs and feel under the bedcovers to see if it was warm on both sides! Yuk....

Nowadays, it's often Facebook that provides the necessary evidence.

Redlady.....

I personally couldn't care less about people earning a few quid on the side, no matter how they earn it. Benefits are small enough as it is. Have never reported anyone even when I've seen it going on, although don't know anyone doing it atm, nor for a number of years.

I'm old now and have found the biggest fraudsters work in offices, own business's and run themselves ragged looking for tax dodges. That's without even counting the 'frauds' committed by multi nationals. Now if we could stop all that fraud.....we'd be an even richer country and pay more dole (not sure how much it is exactly but I'm sure it's quite low)

I smile to myself when I hear self righteous people holding forth about benefit fraud but have no qualms about exaggerating an insurance claim.

Pollycat

chelseablue wrote: »

Situation is:

A mum of 2 children claims she is a single parent living alone, so she has all her rent paid for (approx. £800 a month) plus she receives benefits for the children, I don't know how much Child Tax Credit she receives.

But her partner does live with her (7 nights a week he's there) plus he has a full time job, so he gives her money for bills, food etc

chelseablue wrote: »

If I do report, how could it be proved?

He is not listed as living there at all, his bank account and mobile are not registered there.

The money he gives her, he gives her in cash

So if she was called in for questioning she can produce her bank statements that would show no extra money going in, just her benefits.

Plus HMRC would find nothing that ties him to her address at all

chelseablue wrote: »

No he doesn't have a separate main residence, or own property to maintain.

For his bank account and mobile he uses his Mum's address.

But he has not spent a night at his Mum's house for at least 3 years

I have to say, chelseablue, you appear to know an awful lot about your relative's business.

chelseablue

Pollycat wrote: »

I have to say, chelseablue, you appear to know an awful lot about your relative's business.

Oh they're quite open about it :eek:

chelseablue

Plus I'm related to the male in the situation

Pollycat

chelseablue wrote: »

Oh they're quite open about it :eek:

So why have you left it so long to ask for other people's opinions about reporting a benefit fraud?

chelseablue wrote: »

True, but they have spent the last few years 'getting away with it'

k3lvc

Pollycat wrote: »

In my experience, threads such as these - whether posted on the Benefits board or Discussion Time - generate violent opinions

Redlady..... wrote: »

I personally couldn't care less about people earning a few quid on the side, no matter how they earn it. Benefits are small enough as it is. Have never reported anyone even when I've seen it going on, although don't know anyone doing it atm, nor for a number of years.

I'm old now and have found the biggest fraudsters work in offices, own business's and run themselves ragged looking for tax dodges. That's without even counting the 'frauds' committed by multi nationals. Now if we could stop all that fraud.....we'd be an even richer country and pay more dole (not sure how much it is exactly but I'm sure it's quite low)

I smile to myself when I hear self righteous people holding forth about benefit fraud but have no qualms about exaggerating an insurance claim.

And then the fight started Your Honour :rotfl: