Benefit Fraud

Guest101

Caroline_a wrote: »

Goodness I wish I was as clever as you.

Taken from DWP Power of Entry Review of Powers of Entry Nov 2014 -



Sorry OP to briefly hijack your thread. I don't like being called a liar by people who think they are right regardless.

If you say so.


1 That was 1992 (not 30 years ago)
2 the powers were amended in 2000 and pertain to the powers held in s.110 of that act since the 1992 act does not have a s.109c
3 Neither allow unrestricted access to the property, and certainly not at the times you suggested.

Mupette

Time for her to stop breeding and get working like the rest of us.

I'm disabled and like millions of other disabled people we manage to work even if i am part time, i'm not sponging.

It's people like your relatives that have made life so difficult when it comes to benefits we are entitled to.

So yes get on that phone

FBaby

They don't brag about it, but it seems to be common knowledge amongst the family that they get their rent paid for them.

So why is it that no-one has said anything. It's one think to report or even to threaten to report, but has not one person in the family told them that what they were doing was wrong? Not even during an argument? Not when they received Christmas/birthday presents from them?

chelseablue

FBaby wrote: »

So why is it that no-one has said anything. It's one think to report or even to threaten to report, but has not one person in the family told them that what they were doing was wrong? Not even during an argument? Not when they received Christmas/birthday presents from them?

I think the rest of the immediate family just let them get on with it, but that's a whole other story


I think his Mum feels a bit sorry for them as the flat is a very small one bedroomed place. And she's a bit of a soft touch and wouldn't shop her own son

Mojisola

tea_lover wrote: »

So they've stolen so much now that they should get away with it, but if they'd stolen less they should be reported? That is some very back to front thinking.

I don't understand your post.

I'm not saying don't report them - I'm saying that they probably won't think having all that extra 'free' money through fraud was worth it when she ends up in prison.

suki1964

cleanandgreen wrote: »

You arent't the same poster who posted about your birthday when you lent your bf 100 quid to buy your birthday present and then he blew it all on drink. And then people were warning you not to try for a baby with someone who was acting like a complete waste of space?

My point is, you need to get your own house in order before poking your nose into other people's business.

Either report it or don't, but if youve known about this for three years you really don't have much right to judge, you've known about it all this time and allowed it to go on.

Love how " new posters" know the ins and outs of a ducks bum

Guest101

Mupette wrote: »

Time for her to stop breeding and get working like the rest of us.

I'm disabled and like millions of other disabled people we manage to work even if i am part time, i'm not sponging.

It's people like your relatives that have made life so difficult when it comes to benefits we are entitled to.

So yes get on that phone

What's her having kids got to do with it? Or is it that your disabled and no one calls you out on such nonsense?

Detroit

Mupette wrote: »

Time for her to stop breeding and get working like the rest of us.

I'm disabled and like millions of other disabled people we manage to work even if i am part time, i'm not sponging.

It's people like your relatives that have made life so difficult when it comes to benefits we are entitled to.

So yes get on that phone

I think it's unfortunate when people claiming benefits for one reason, such as disability, are judgemental about people claiming for other reasons, for example because they are bringing up children.

Life is not made more difficult for benefit claimants by other claimants.
The difficulties are due to government policy.

To suggest it would suddenly get easier, or benefits would be more generous if it wasn't for (insert name of 'undeserving' claimant group) taking all the money, is just to blow a smoke screen over the real issues.

This is NOT justifying fraudulent claims. I am referring to your 'stop breeding' comment.

clairev36

If you did report it would you do it anonymously?
4 years ago we have the DWP turn up on the doorstep, investigating a claim of benefit fraud on the next door neighbour, we hadn't reported them and had no knowledge about the investigation and they don't tell you the all the details but all the questions were about her partner and whether he was living there or just visiting at times. They have lived here longer than us (17 years) initially we thought they were married with three teenagers but over the years found out that she had been widowed (the children must have been very young)and that the man was a subsequent relationship. We were asked about things like seeing him scraping ice of his car at 7am, there at weekends etc. We ever asked to give a statement which I did although felt very uncomfortable about. We were warned that we would be required to go to court if it got that far but advised that this was unlikely. Then heard nothing for years except seeing the neighbour professionally as she had successful treatment for Breast cancer. Out of the blue hand delivered letter wanted to know my availability for court appearance. It went to crown court, I had to give evidence, without a doubt it was one of the most stressful, awful experiences, I was told by the person from DWP that I would just be asked about the statement, that went out the window immediately and I was given a grilling about the time I'd entered the house, had I been to the bedroom, had I seen male clothing/toiletries, what card had the driven, the registrations, the cards the brought for the birth of my children, what names were in the them. I felt very under prepared and a bit let down by the DWP. The outcome was she was found not guilty but has to repay over 50k of benefit. We are still neighbours but haven't spoken since and I would go out of my way to avoid contact with her. I have to say I'm not sure I'd out myself through something like that again. Despite the fact that I haven't done anything wrong it caused me a huge amount of anxiety and has made living next to them uncomfortable.
I'm sure the new jaguar he brought a few years ago made their lives a bit more comfy though :mad:

Mupette

Guest101 wrote: »

What's her having kids got to do with it? Or is it that your disabled and no one calls you out on such nonsense?

Detroit wrote: »

I think it's unfortunate when people claiming benefits for one reason, such as disability, are judgemental about people claiming for other reasons, for example because they are bringing up children.

Life is not made more difficult for benefit claimants by other claimants.
The difficulties are due to government policy.

To suggest it would suddenly get easier, or benefits would be more generous if it wasn't for (insert name of 'undeserving' claimant group) taking all the money, is just to blow a smoke screen over the real issues.

This is NOT justifying fraudulent claims. I am referring to your 'stop breeding' comment.

Ok let me re word it.

She should think about getting a job to support her family, before thinking of anymore (maybe she will, maybe she won't have any more)

I actually saw it more of being that tax payers are paying for her to stay at home and defraud the system and raise a family.

Me saying about the disabled was referring to what other posters were also saying.

*sits and waits whilst all posts are scrutinised with the word disabled in and copied and pasted and broken down into sections, posted back up whilst word for word my posts are red inked with personal views of why i am slammed for being judgemental or talking nonsense whilst i win today's title of 'rip to shreds poster'