2.2 milion (so far) sign petition calling for 2nd EU referendum.

ukcarper

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Yes. Don't worry I haven't forgotten about them.

I haven't forgotten by a long chalk.

How do you feel about the thousands of young people who couldn't be bothered to vote.

Thrugelmir

ukcarper wrote: »

How do you feel about the thousands of young people who couldn't be bothered to vote.

Lack of interest it appears. Life is too comfortable perhaps.

kinger101

ukcarper wrote: »

How do you feel about the thousands of young people who couldn't be bothered to vote.

I think you're being deeply unfair. Perhaps they just trusted their elders to make the right choice.

PasturesNew

kinger101 wrote: »

Perhaps they just trusted their elders to make the right choice.

And perhaps they did!

SingleSue

ukcarper wrote: »

How do you feel about the thousands of young people who couldn't be bothered to vote.

Mine were not among them, all 3 (18,19 and 22) voted as did my niece (she was a leaver) who is also 19. The other nieces and nephews are too young to vote.

ukcarper

SingleSue wrote: »

Mine were not among them, all 3 (18,19 and 22) voted as did my niece (she was a leaver) who is also 19. The other nieces and nephews are too young to vote.

It's a pity more didn't follower their example

winter100

I accept the result from the referendum even though I don't like the result. I watched question time tonight and the first question was regarding the electorate giving the establishment a bloody nose.
I really feel that Austerity has been the cause of the discontent and the areas that have been worst affected voted for Brexit. The EU has been the scapegoat in this.
If in the areas that had been affected by immigration had had extra resources put in locally for the benefit not just of the immigrants but also the indigenous population there may have not been so much resentment. This is the UK governments fault not the EU.
Now to that bloody nose do you not think that the people who voted out will themselves now be given a bloody nose if this situation causes a massive recession.
Do you really think that the elite will let themselves suffer. The GFC created a greater divide between the haves and the have nots and this has the potential to do the same. The likes of Murdoch whose press has drip fed lies about the EU along with the help of the DM and other tabloids. The same way he has done in Australia over the years on the subject of Climate change which has led to governments there overturning any measure to curb warming.
This petition may well be a means of people expressing their frustration their may be an element of fixing in it but in this modern age some measures could be put in place such as geo blocking. I know there are ways round this but for the casual user. As for many overseas voters who are affected by this decision who didn't receive their ballot papers in time due to the antiquated way the voting system works. Many countries have polling booths available in the UK for their citizens here.
There are many who have retired overseas to be with family or for better weather and health reasons. Their pensions will be affected by the drop in the level of the pound. I know there will be some that say that if they go overseas they don't deserve it. However they are not using NHS resources and have paid tax and National insurance here for many years to get that pension.
There seem to be more actual facts on the consequences coming out now and I have talked to quite a number of people who voted out who now feel that they were sold a pup and would have voted remain. (it would only have taken less than 650,000 to change their vote for the vote to go the other way). This information should have been available before the referendum.
If you bought a cooker that didn't do what you expected it to you could return it under misrepresentation. Not so with something of such constitutional importance

Conrad

winter100 wrote: »

I accept the result from the referendum even though I don't like the result. I watched question time tonight and the first question was regarding the electorate giving the establishment a bloody nose.
I really feel that Austerity has been the cause of the discontent and the areas that have been worst affected voted for Brexit. The EU has been the scapegoat in this.
If in the areas that had been affected by immigration had had extra resources put in locally for the benefit not just of the immigrants but also the indigenous population there may have not been so much resentment. This is the UK governments fault not the EU.
Now to that bloody nose do you not think that the people who voted out will themselves now be given a bloody nose if this situation causes a massive recession.
Do you really think that the elite will let themselves suffer. The GFC created a greater divide between the haves and the have nots and this has the potential to do the same. The likes of Murdoch whose press has drip fed lies about the EU along with the help of the DM and other tabloids. The same way he has done in Australia over the years on the subject of Climate change which has led to governments there overturning any measure to curb warming.
This petition may well be a means of people expressing their frustration their may be an element of fixing in it but in this modern age some measures could be put in place such as geo blocking. I know there are ways round this but for the casual user. As for many overseas voters who are affected by this decision who didn't receive their ballot papers in time due to the antiquated way the voting system works. Many countries have polling booths available in the UK for their citizens here.
There are many who have retired overseas to be with family or for better weather and health reasons. Their pensions will be affected by the drop in the level of the pound. I know there will be some that say that if they go overseas they don't deserve it. However they are not using NHS resources and have paid tax and National insurance here for many years to get that pension.
There seem to be more actual facts on the consequences coming out now and I have talked to quite a number of people who voted out who now feel that they were sold a pup and would have voted remain. (it would only have taken less than 650,000 to change their vote for the vote to go the other way). This information should have been available before the referendum.
If you bought a cooker that didn't do what you expected it to you could return it under misrepresentation. Not so with something of such constitutional importance

You are failing to spot the EU has millions and millions unemployed, with huge unemployment rates

Now given you imply you have considered all the facts, why do you think the EU has destroyed so many jobs and businesses?

It is the lowest growth continent on Earth, what do you think this is down to?

You must consider all sides of an argument before claiming you have explored all the angles.
There are huge benefits of being an independent nation able to react fast and set your own policies. Nuff said for now, do a lot more research before scare mongering

winter100

Conrad wrote: »

You are failing to spot the EU has millions and millions unemployed, with huge unemployment rates

Now given you imply you have considered all the facts, why do you think the EU has destroyed so many jobs and businesses?

It is the lowest growth continent on Earth, what do you think this is down to?

You must consider all sides of an argument before claiming you have explored all the angles.
There are huge benefits of being an independent nation able to react fast and set your own policies. Nuff said for now, do a lot more research before scare mongering

The growth rate in the EU during the first quarter of 2016 was 0.6% and recovering. I never said it was perfect and it does need reform but it is IMHO better to be in and driving it. The UK has been on the winning side of most votes in the European parliament.

cells

Conrad wrote: »

You are failing to spot the EU has millions and millions unemployed, with huge unemployment rates

Now given you imply you have considered all the facts, why do you think the EU has destroyed so many jobs and businesses?

It is the lowest growth continent on Earth, what do you think this is down to?

You must consider all sides of an argument before claiming you have explored all the angles.
There are huge benefits of being an independent nation able to react fast and set your own policies. Nuff said for now, do a lot more research before scare mongering

The EU28 if it were a country would have the highest GDP in the world. This is dispite not having the same level of natural and historical advantages the USA has (eg USA has a lot more natural resources and didn't have the same sort of damage in ww2 and has an inbuilt lead in a lot of sectors like media software computers etc not to mention they have a faster growing population and one single language which also helps them)