2.2 milion (so far) sign petition calling for 2nd EU referendum.

patman99

Over 2.2 million people have signed a petition caling for the Govt. to hold a 2nd EU referendum vote.

This is down to the closeness of the result.

I actually agree with this as it was not a huge majority, but only something like 4%. The PM should have set the barr at 60% when he set the wheels in motion all those weeks ago. At least then the result would have had to have been a large majority rather than a small one.

For the record, I voted 'out'.

As an aside, my Italian co-workers were talking about the growing anti-EU movement in Italy and predict that Italy will hold a referendum within 2 years.

The reasons being that they would prefer to be part of a balanced EU with every country having an equal say in how things are run, rather than being in an EU where the Germans seem to be gaining greater strenght and influence.

jay213

The referendum turnout was 71.8% - with more than 30 million people voting - the highest turnout at a UK-wide vote since 1992.

Votes to leave = 17,410,742 VOTES

Votes to stay = 16,141,241 VOTES

Well I guess we could have a never ending EU referendum if all it takes is a couple million out of over 30 million votes to have another go. That can easily be achieved on either side as can be seen by the numbers above.

patman99

Thing is, this is actually the highest ever numbe of signatures on an official Govt. E-petition. The Govt. have no choice but to debate it as their rules on petitions state that 'over 100,00 signatures will trigger a debate'.

We have had some pretty serious e-petition subjects over the years, but none has had such a response in such a short time.

Lorian

what wrong with this thread

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5484256

Maddermanblue1

As much as I would like to remain in the EU (you can tell I voted remain!)
The referendum is a final say, the petitions will not alter nor trigger another referendum.
I'm scared for this country, I'm scared for the younger generation as I think they are the ones that will hurt. But this is how a democracy works, if you change the rules on what the majority voted for it will no longer be a democratic country but bordering on dictatorship.

Put it this way - would you want another referendum if we had won to remain?

As there has been a lot of talk on 30% of the voting population not voting (I suspect it may tip towards remain if they voted) perhaps the UK should make voting compulsory?

lush_walrus

A lot of the signatures are from those who are unable to vote, EU citizens. Democracy is one of the good things in our society, this is a flaccid attempt to overthrow that. Of course the government will discuss it, it's not as if they won't be expecting it is it.

Crashy_Time

Maddermanblue1 wrote: »

As much as I would like to remain in the EU (you can tell I voted remain!)
The referendum is a final say, the petitions will not alter nor trigger another referendum.
I'm scared for this country, I'm scared for the younger generation as I think they are the ones that will hurt. But this is how a democracy works, if you change the rules on what the majority voted for it will no longer be a democratic country but bordering on dictatorship.

Put it this way - would you want another referendum if we had won to remain?

As there has been a lot of talk on 30% of the voting population not voting (I suspect it may tip towards remain if they voted) perhaps the UK should make voting compulsory?

Compulsory? So you do want a dictatorship then?

Thrugelmir

patman99 wrote: »

Thing is, this is actually the highest ever numbe of signatures on an official Govt. E-petition. The Govt. have no choice but to debate it as their rules on petitions state that 'over 100,00 signatures will trigger a debate'.

So when an election is called and people don't like the result. There'll now be a petition. Bordering on lunacy....

Crashy_Time

patman99 wrote: »

Thing is, this is actually the highest ever numbe of signatures on an official Govt. E-petition. The Govt. have no choice but to debate it as their rules on petitions state that 'over 100,00 signatures will trigger a debate'.

We have had some pretty serious e-petition subjects over the years, but none has had such a response in such a short time.[/QUOTE]


Looking down the barrel of losing your free money/rent will do that.

Tigsteroonie

patman99 wrote: »

Thing is, this is actually the highest ever numbe of signatures on an official Govt. E-petition. The Govt. have no choice but to debate it as their rules on petitions state that 'over 100,00 signatures will trigger a debate'.

As I've commented elsewhere, this doesn't mean much. The House of Commons has a habit of introducing such debates very late in the week, and then filibustering the discussion out of existence.

But I have to ask - there was a majority. At what point will the Remain camp accept that? It's just sour grapes to ask for another referendum. It would have been equally sour grapes if Leave had lost and petitioned for another referendum. This is democracy, suck it up :rotfl:

Maddermanblue1

Also when did petitions ever work? All it does is get debated then nothing else ever happens, please give me an example of what had changed through the result of petitions?

500k people petitioned to ban Trump from setting foot in this country it was debated in the commons but he still arrived yesterday (Friday).