Referendum result - Predictions

Yolina

Who do I sue for the loss in value of my savings? Though I did make a quid or two on currency fluctuation overnight, still...

Well done the UK, you've not so much cut you nose to spite your face but cut your head off. Clever,really.

mrginge

This is a result of two things.
Firstly, the massive inequality across not just sections of the U.K., but also Europe in general.
Secondly, the arrogance and inflexibility of political leaders.

When it became clear that there was a serious chance of Brexit, the EU should have been looking to appease the UK voters with at the very least some serious commitments to looking at free movement rules. Exactly the same way that Cameron had to deal with the Scottish referendum.
You just cannot ignore the views of half the electorate.

But instead the EU did nothing. Not prepared to adapt, not prepared to think again, not prepared to veer away from the principles that have given rise to dissatisfaction across the whole of Europe.

Cameron failed in his negotiation. Too eager to do the minimum and complacent to think that it would be enough. He should have taken a much harder line up front, made serious demands and put the ball firmly in the EUs court. Instead he bottled it.

It's a shame we're leaving but the blame lies squarely at the feet of the politicians themselves, not those who were asked to pass judgement on them.

mwpt

mrginge wrote: »

This is a result of two things.
Firstly, the massive inequality across not just sections of the U.K., but also Europe in general.
Secondly, the arrogance and inflexibility of political leaders.

When it became clear that there was a serious chance of Brexit, the EU should have been looking to appease the UK voters with at the very least some serious commitments to looking at free movement rules. Exactly the same way that Cameron had to deal with the Scottish referendum.
You just cannot ignore the views of half the electorate.

But instead the EU did nothing. Not prepared to adapt, not prepared to think again, not prepared to veer away from the principles that have given rise to dissatisfaction across the whole of Europe.

Cameron failed in his negotiation. Too eager to do the minimum and complacent to think that it would be enough. He should have taken a much harder line up front, made serious demands and put the ball firmly in the EUs court. Instead he bottled it.

It's a shame we're leaving but the blame lies squarely at the feet of the politicians themselves, not those who were asked to pass judgement on them.

We have some common ground. I may not agree with all of that but I agree with the sentiment.

Rinoa

mayonnaise wrote: »

Congratulations to the leave camp. Your campaign of lies, division, hate and fear has worked a treat.
Goodbye Great Britain, hello little england.

So refreshing to see the Remain camp accepting defeat with such good grace.

BTW, what happened to the 20% fall in the pound, the ftse falling below 5000. Any idea when Osborne will be presenting his emergency budget? Or has it been quietly forgotten.

mystic_trev

mayonnaise wrote: »

Congratulations to the leave camp. Your campaign of lies.

When do you expect George Osbourne to announce his emergency Budget?

Yolina

Rinoa wrote: »

BTW, what happened to the 20% fall in the pound, the ftse falling below 5000. Any idea when Osborne will be presenting his emergency budget? Or has it been quietly forgotten.

What happened to that £350m/week to the NHS that Farage now said was a 'mistake'?

Moby

:rotfl:Boris just left his house......loads of chanting 'Tory Scum'.........we are a country divided..........totally riven down the middle.....and the tories are tacking back to the right....who will now grab the centre ground? Meanwhile Donald Trump lands and is serenaded up the steps to his new golf course by the pipers.

Generali

Rinoa wrote: »

So refreshing to see the Remain camp accepting defeat with such good grace.

BTW, what happened to the 20% fall in the pound, the ftse falling below 5000. Any idea when Osborne will be presenting his emergency budget? Or has it been quietly forgotten.

Well you're half way to the quid falling 20% and the FTSE is down almost 5%.

mayonnaise

mystic_trev wrote: »

When do you expect George Osbourne to announce his emergency Budget?

I don't expect George to stay on for long.
Why would he want to stay around and oversee the biggest economic clusterf*ck in history?

wymondham

mayonnaise wrote: »

Congratulations to the leave camp. Your campaign of lies, division, hate and fear has worked a treat.
Goodbye Great Britain, hello little england.

thank you!