A Brexiters view

StevieJ

CLAPTON wrote: »

interesting

so you judge the success of the EU by the number of young people forced to leave their homes and families due to unemployment.

frankly I think that is rather sick.
I suppose quite modest in the context of a loony labour leadeship that thinks killing 40-50 million Chinese is a price worth paying for 'socialism'.

As sick as your revered Thatcher government? 'Remember On yer bike' Norman Tebbit? Or indeed Brexit campaigner Ian Duncan Smith?

The unemployed should ‘get on the bus’ and look for work, the minister in charge of reforming the welfare system said yesterday.
Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith attracted fierce criticism from unions by echoing Norman Tebbit’s 1980s suggestion that the jobless should get on their bikes.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322811/Iain-Duncan-Smith-echoes-Norman-Tebbit-telling-jobless-Get-bus-work.html

mayonnaise

StevieJ wrote: »

Brexit campaigner Ian Duncan Smith?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322811/Iain-Duncan-Smith-echoes-Norman-Tebbit-telling-jobless-Get-bus-work.html

Yep, that same Iain Duncan Smith who claims the EU is a force for social injustice. Pure comedy! :rotfl:

Generali

StevieJ wrote: »

True, our super democratic government don't seem too keen on PR

Or an elected second chamber or an elected Head of State or disestablishmentarianism come to that.

Prince Phillip felt the need to convert to CofE the day before he married HRH QEII. Could we cope with a Head of State that celebrated Christmas in January?

CLAPTON

StevieJ wrote: »

As sick as your revered Thatcher government? 'Remember On yer bike' Norman Tebbit? Or indeed Brexit campaigner Ian Duncan Smith?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1322811/Iain-Duncan-Smith-echoes-Norman-Tebbit-telling-jobless-Get-bus-work.html

you are a very confused person


Tebbitt said 'get on your bike ' to look for work elsewhere
EU is saying ' look for work elsewhere'

do you support both Tebbitt and the EU view of how the unemployed should behave or neither or only one?

maybe you actually agree with the policy of people moving from high unemployment to low area of unemployment but hate it if it is suggested by a tory and love it if it is suggested by the EU elite


pathetic

Generali

Spidernick wrote: »

Good post, but please don't use the term 'Remainiac'. Like 'Remainian' (as used by Farage) it is supposed to be a derogatory term, whereas those on the Leave side like to refer to themselves as 'Brexiteers'. This sounds far more romantic and positive, like the flamboyant 'Musketeers', with the irony being, of course, that these were French!

I'm reclaiming the word, rather like the aged hip-hopsters NWA did with the N in their name or gay people have with various insults.

I suppose the counterpoint would be a Brexitiot.

Generali

CLAPTON wrote: »

you are a very confused person


Tebbitt said 'get on your bike ' to look for work elsewhere
EU is saying ' look for work elsewhere'

do you support both Tebbitt and the EU view of how the unemployed should behave or neither or only one?

maybe you actually agree with the policy of people moving from high unemployment to low area of unemployment but hate it if it is suggested by a tory and love it if it is suggested by the EU elite


pathetic

False dichotomy (I collect logical fallacies).

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

Or an elected second chamber or an elected Head of State or disestablishmentarianism come to that.

Prince Phillip felt the need to convert to CofE the day before he married HRH QEII. Could we cope with a Head of State that celebrated Christmas in January?

it that the government or the people?

StevieJ

CLAPTON wrote: »

you are a very confused person


Tebbitt said 'get on your bike ' to look for work elsewhere
EU is saying ' look for work elsewhere'

do you support both Tebbitt and the EU view of how the unemployed should behave or neither or only one?

maybe you actually agree with the policy of people moving from high unemployment to low area of unemployment but hate it if it is suggested by a tory and love it if it is suggested by the EU elite


pathetic

Confused person, I think that is you I support the opportunity to work where there is near full employment rather than lanquish in an area where there is very little work.

CLAPTON

Generali wrote: »

False dichotomy (I collect logical fallacies).

wrong and meaningless as is increasingly the case, when the holy EU is at issue

CLAPTON

StevieJ wrote: »

Confused person, I think that is you

don't be a coward : give us your views

is it wrong to suggest that Uk based people should either travel or even move to get a job?

is it wrong to suggest that people in Greece, Spain, Portugal etc should travel thousands of miles to get a job?

are you proud of the EU that 8/9 years after the financial meltdown the level of unemployment in many EU countries is so high.