The EU: IN or OUT?

blutto

Gove put his hat in the ring today as he was convinced that he might be the only candidate to stop old hag May! Please anyone but her! She hid away in this referendum and was eyeing up the crown cowardly! I hope she does not get it! Liam Fox may be a good alternative? Crabb too young and inexperienced for the giant task ahead,Johnson able to do it it but must scrub up as he looks like he always has his clothes on back to front ,though I have heard this is done skilfully for his persona!

BananaRepublic

jimjames wrote: »

Boris has previous form for lying and being sacked as a result.

Presumably he was practising for when he later became a politician? For goodness sake, we all know the EU contribution figure was a misrepresentation, or a lie if you prefer, the real figure for our contribution being quite a bit smaller, but both sides lied, and I suspect the public were aware of that.

EdSwippet

JohnRo wrote: »

I don't know what that is but it's not my idea of democracy.

Kakistocracy? Dictionary definition:

Noun
kakistocracy ‎(plural kakistocracies)
Government under the control of a nation's worst or least-qualified citizens.

Ballard

BananaRepublic wrote: »

Presumably he was practising for when he later became a politician? For goodness sake, we all know the EU contribution figure was a misrepresentation, or a lie if you prefer, the real figure for our contribution being quite a bit smaller, but both sides lied, and I suspect the public were aware of that.

This vote was too huge for people to tell absolute lies. The fact that the leave campaigners repeatedly said that the figure was £350m after being told to desist and also (all but) pledged to spend this money on the NHS is a disgrace.

From the Facebook posts and conversations that I've had with leavers there were two main reasons to leave. Firstly the £350m and secondly they wanted an end to EU migration. It looks odds-on that neither will become reality.

We will have all received the pamphlet from Vote Leave saying that Turkey will 'soon' join the EU and naming two other countries. Iraq & Syria. This will have scared a lot of people into voting to leave and I fear that they will come to regret it.

chockydavid1983

Unfortunately there were lies and exaggerations on both sides.
Worse, it seems like neither side will be happy with the final outcome.

jimjames

BananaRepublic wrote: »

Presumably he was practising for when he later became a politician? For goodness sake, we all know the EU contribution figure was a misrepresentation, or a lie if you prefer, the real figure for our contribution being quite a bit smaller, but both sides lied, and I suspect the public were aware of that.

I don't think anything was as an explicit a lie as the £350m.

Irrelevant now though as Boris has gone. Pretty incredible change of events in the space of a few days and makes the analysis of the Guardian commentator from Saturday even more intriguing.

http://damn-lies-and-statistics.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/guardian-comment-boris-checkmate.html

The Brexit leaders now have a result that they cannot use. For them, leadership of the Tory party has become a poison chalice.

blutto

Daniel54 wrote: »

Good news at last !

Crawl back to your cave! keep your spill to yourself Euro boy!:rotfl:

blutto

Please any Tory members on here >PLEASE not that old hag Theresa May she will be AWFUL! Leadsom that woman would be a much better choice than her! She is for 'IN' and biast or played the 'in' card to keep her Brexit views at bay so she would not be Toxic! Cowardly I feel! Atleast Boris stood for what he wanted!

So she will be a disastrous choice in my view! Weak and cowardly sitting on the fence throughout this campaign we have just been through! No Good at all im afraid!
She will just cave in to anything and i bet she will be no Margaret Thatcher and weak at the 'dispatch box'!

She gets it i will vote 'Labour' out of spite! God awful woman indeed!

Vote ANYONE but her! Please for the sake of the UK! Or if any Tory member parliament views this thread !

Swagger1980

I think you need a lesson in sarcasm dear friend

jimjames

blutto wrote: »

Please any Tory members on here >PLEASE not that old hag Theresa May she will be AWFUL! Leadsom that woman would be a much better choice than her! She is for 'IN' and biast or played the 'in' card to keep her Brexit views at bay so she would not be Toxic! Cowardly I feel! Atleast Boris stood for what he wanted!

True colours coming out there.

It's probably true Boris stood for what he wanted - to be Prime Minister. He wasn't bothered about leaving EU, just thought it would help him to get to being leader. Someone that has previously been pro-EU, took a week to decide which side he was and after the vote then rowed back on most of what he'd said, hardly is someone who stood for what they wanted in a patriotic way.