The EU: IN or OUT?

Swagger1980

You are making a huge assumption that they don't....:T

Swagger1980

colsten wrote: »

You are making the HUGE assumption there that the average MSEer will be visiting the Savings & Investments board.

You are making a huge assumption that they don't...:T

lr1277

Some fun (for the remainers, not so much for the leavers).

According to Tina Brown on Twitter, the map of 'Leave' areas matches exactly a map from 1992 showing areas with Mad cow disease.

Details here:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/06/29/daily-202-colorado-sen-michael-bennet-s-new-rival-thinks-ted-cruz-belongs-on-the-supreme-court/57731181981b92a22d40cac9/

It is long way down, so you could search on 'Social media speed read'.

blutto

Love him or loathe him ,atleast he looks like a 'Statesmen' ! He has Gravitas and can hold his own! Never really thought of him as a ''Pm'' but a few years ago saw the potential there!;)

I just hope that Boris and his supporters do not back Theresa may as she will be a disaster!

From the runners and riders so far i think if i was a Tory member or MP/MEP i would vote Gove for a few reason.

1.Hold his own.
2.will not bend over for the EU to shaft us!
3.He is for out.
4.Most important and Gravitas and intellectual ability to negotiate the many areas that will need to be discussed in the months ahead.
5.Maybe not quite the Unifying candidate but is of statesmen breed.

If not her then Liam Fox or that Andrea Leadsom!

:T

coastline

things will be fine...

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/27/nevermind-the-brexit-uk-will-emerge-with-a-good-trade-deal.html

uk1

In all the noise about brexit, CETA and TTIP has gone all quiet.

Although everyone talks about the Canadian and American trade agreements as though they are in place this is far from reality. In fact there is an interesting growing dispute emerging quietly in the EU and that is who basically approves and signs trade agreements. Junckers thinks he approves them on behalf of all 28 EU states but a number of states disagree, including over the last few days the vice chancellor of Germany.

The reason for this concern is that some of these trade agreements carry obligations that hasn't been fully "rammified" by member states. For example in CETA, Canada can sue an EU state if it doesn't offer Canadian companies trading conditions and terms that exactly matches those that is available to home corporations. This is causing some EU states to insist that all 28 states must consider them and agree.

Now just suppose ......

If the UK has to be one of those states that needs to approve any future trading agreement the EU wishes to ratify, then what would stop it to say "we refuse to ratify any further agreements until the EU stops trying to punish us and agrees with us a sensible trading agreement".

Just saying.

Jeff

BananaRepublic

blutto wrote: »

PLEASE not that old hag Theresa May she will be AWFUL!

What a horrible thing to say. She is apparently nice in person, and she has a long record of competence in a senior cabinet role. Experience counts for a lot.

blutto wrote: »

Love him or loathe him ,atleast he looks like a 'Statesmen' ! He has Gravitas and can hold his own! Never really thought of him as a ''Pm'' but a few years ago saw the potential there!;)

You seriously think anyone would now trust someone as duplicitous and self serving as Gove? The man is an ego maniac, pretending to support Boris, then at the last minute, saying "Boris is unsuitable, but hey, there's a better candidate, it's me". For goodness sake!

chucknorris

BananaRepublic wrote: »

What a horrible thing to say. She is apparently nice in person, and she has a long record of competence in a senior cabinet role. Experience counts for a lot.



You seriously think anyone would now trust someone as duplicitous and self serving as Gove? The man is an ego maniac, pretending to support Boris, then at the last minute, saying "Boris is unsuitable, but hey, there's a better candidate, it's me". For goodness sake!

I just can't see Gove being seen as trustworthy enough by his fellow mps, especially Borris supporters, May looks the obvious choice to me. But by far the best person for the job is David Cameron, it's a shame things turned out the way that they did.

teddysmum

chucknorris wrote: »

I just can't see Gove being seen as trustworthy enough by his fellow mps, especially Borris supporters, May looks the obvious choice to me. But by far the best person for the job is David Cameron, it's a shame things turned out the way that they did.

Cameron has done nothing but get empty promises, on a poor deal, anyway.

JohnRo

teddysmum wrote: »

Cameron has done nothing but get empty promises, on a poor deal, anyway.

You can say that now because we'll never know, that doesn't make it true, just very convenient.

However there's no more truth in your statement than there is in the slogan that we will be able to spend an extra £350 million a week on the NHS, or any extra amount on anything for that matter.

The difference between the two is that we will know about the brexit campaign lies because we can measure them, we'll also learn over time whether the shrill accusations of 'project fear' just turn out to be plain old boring project fact.