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The EU: IN or OUT?

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  • BananaRepublic
    BananaRepublic Posts: 2,103 Forumite
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    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    I like what Theresa May said when she won, but then again the same could be said of Thatcher and Bliar and look how they turned out :(
    Theresa May has already said that she won't call an early election. This is despite being on record as calling for Gordon Brown to so do when he became PM, on the basis that he had no democratic mandate. It's good to see that she's starting out upholding the same level of hypocrisy as her predecessor.

    Don't tell anyone, but I'll let you into a secret. It's how politicians behave. P*ss on the opposition, and try to get away with blue murder. That's why we need a strong opposition ... not much chance of that these days ...
  • moneyfoolish
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    Don't tell anyone, but I'll let you into a secret. It's how politicians behave. P*ss on the opposition, and try to get away with blue murder. That's why we need a strong opposition ... not much chance of that these days ...
    Sadly, that's very true. I'm hoping - but it is just a hope - that because May doesn't seem to be a member of the "old boys" network and seems to get on with working instead of talking that she might prove to be a bit different. However, that could well be a vain hope!
  • masonic
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    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    Theresa May has already said that she won't call an early election.
    It's hardly worth bothering with the formality given the current state of the opposition. Besides, she doesn't have a large enough majority to carry the motion unless it has cross-party support.
  • Dird
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    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    Theresa May has already said that she won't call an early election.
    There is 0 reason to have another election when we already had 1 last year. Labour don't even know who they want to lead, let alone what policies stances they want to take. May should be focusing on getting trade agreements around the world & cutting benefits with a new election in 2020 when the dust has settled
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  • brianh
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    I can't understand why even politicians go on about May needing an election. We don't have a presidential system, we vote for MPs who choose a leader, I think almost half of our prime minsters have reached that position without being the leader at the time of the General Election (including Churchill in 1940).

    Even ignoring our parliamentary system, the last thing we need is another few months of electioneering and more instability.
  • Glen_Clark
    Glen_Clark Posts: 4,397 Forumite
    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    Theresa May has already said that she won't call an early election. This is despite being on record as calling for Gordon Brown to so do when he became PM, on the basis that he had no democratic mandate. It's good to see that she's starting out upholding the same level of hypocrisy as her predecessor.

    Whether we need an election or not is beside the point, and a diversion from Theresa May's hypocrisy in saying Gordon Brown needed one in the same situation, but she doesn't.
    “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” --Upton Sinclair
  • CLAPTON
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    Glen_Clark wrote: »
    Whether we need an election or not is beside the point, and a diversion from Theresa May's hypocrisy in saying Gordon Brown needed one in the same situation, but she doesn't.

    clearly not the same situation
  • Scarpacci
    Scarpacci Posts: 1,017 Forumite
    An interesting article today about Amazon's attitudes towards tax and how it goes to the heart of the European Union through Luxembourg and its former Prime Minister Jean Claude Juncker, who of course now is one of the most powerful people in the European project.

    Despite his claims to be against the big multinationals, who were all in favour of us remaining a member of the EU remember, and their suspect tax activity, we learn he met with Amazon officials as they were striking such a lucrative tax deal with this tiny landlocked nation at the heart of the EU project.

    http://europe.newsweek.com/amazon-jeff-bezos-taxes-479814

    Thank God we're set to be free of this organisation and its dubious leadership. Though it should no longer concern us once we're out the door, there would be some poetic justice if the other EU countries, fed up of him and how under his premiership his country was bleeding the tax coffers of other European countries, manage to depose him.
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  • talexuser
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    There are rumours that Merkel is well p===ed with Juncker for not giving Cameron a little bit more to take back in the renegotiation, and thus leading to the out vote (remember Cameron lobbied against Juncker getting the job in the first place so there might have been payback there). Since she is the one who pays the piper in the EU, Junckers' days might be numbered.
  • moneyfoolish
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    Bad start by May having Buffoon Boris in her cabinet.
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