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BREXIT - Why?

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  • savings_my_hobby
    savings_my_hobby Posts: 363 Forumite
    edited 20 May 2016 at 10:45PM
    It will be interesting if/when Cameron debates Farage how he (Cameron) will put a positive case for Mass immigration when in his own manifesto, sorry, last TWO manifestos he has pledged (deceitfully) to reduce immigration from the 100,000's to the 10,000's.

    Farage will clearly attack on this point, he has earned support (and criticism) on this issue before and has criticised the official leave campaign for not pressing it.

    Mind you after all the U-turns he (Cameron) has performed it would not suprise me if he tells us to all go out and hug an immigrant.:D
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  • uk1 wrote: »
    If you read the small print, it isn't a reduction. It is simply not increasing as much as it would have done. Supposedly.

    Still welcome if you are saving for a deposit and the house prices in your area are rising equal to or faster than your savings.
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  • darkidoe
    darkidoe Posts: 1,129 Forumite
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    Brexit Could See a fall in House Prices
    Why not? I would love to see a fall in house prices, given how inflated the housing market is at the moment.

    'Brexit a feel good factor could sink the Economy.'
    Will the market go up, will the market go down?? Sound businesses will still be sound businesses even after the referendum. There might be a period of adjustments but I don't see how the whole country will slide back to the middle ages just from the Brexit.

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  • Another thing the remain camp has failed to acknowledge is the possibility of our post brexit negotiations being immaterial because the peoples of other member states could demand a referendum and vote to leave, therefore we could then bi-laterally argee to an
    a la carte deal keeping what is desirable and scrapping what is not.

    That would be ideal.

    I think the common currency is a obstacle to this idea though.
    Hence why they formed it.
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  • atush
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    Or just accept the premise that we don't know how Brexit will affect our household incomes in 2030.

    Not even the Chancellor of the Exchequer.

    I have no idea whet will happen re brexit or not in 2030. I am more attuned to what will happen in 2016 if we brexit,

    and from economists all over, and the BOE the answer is clear. Down.

    While I personally have my eye on the Long game, we can only predict the short with any sort of accuracy.
  • uk1
    uk1 Posts: 1,862 Forumite
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    edited 21 May 2016 at 12:38AM
    atush wrote: »
    I have no idea whet will happen re brexit or not in 2030. I am more attuned to what will happen in 2016 if we brexit, and from economists all over, and the BOE the answer is clear.

    And how many that have said so do you believe are impartial?

    You need to decide what sort of future you want for your children and grandchildren, not what is good for 2016.

    :)

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  • OldBeanz
    OldBeanz Posts: 1,438 Forumite
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    Well the head of the Bank of England was appointed by GO and you only contradict your boss in public if you want a new job. The head of the IMF is a French politician who was telling us a few years ago that our economy was not recovering. The doom mongers at the turn of the century who told us not joining the Euro was the end of our economy. The never repayable debt which continues to surround Greece. The Italian economy which has not grown this millennium. Spanish youth unemployment at record levels. The Germans running a surplus against Euro rules and forcing austerity on everyone else. The French happy to cut their working hours as long as they get a fresh baguette every morning.
    It's an omnishamblesshambles.
  • atush wrote: »
    I have no idea whet will happen re brexit or not in 2030. I am more attuned to what will happen in 2016 if we brexit,

    and from economists all over, and the BOE the answer is clear. Down.

    While I personally have my eye on the Long game, we can only predict the short with any sort of accuracy.

    The economy is but one aspect of Brexit.

    The remain side where always going so lean on the risks, Cameron even said so himself to and EU colleague a while back.

    If Brexit would be such a disaster then the referendum would NOT be on the table and Britain will thrive either way.

    So the question is do we want Britain to thrive inside the EU, with all the pending crisis's that entails, (Migrant, Greek debt, never ending accession of new member states) or do we want Britain to thrive Outside the EU, with FULL control over our borders and FULL control over our laws.

    The choice is clear.
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  • justme111
    justme111 Posts: 3,531 Forumite
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    OldBeanz wrote: »
    Well the head of the Bank of England was appointed by GO and you only contradict your boss in public if you want a new job..
    Even then you do not do it as it will be frowned upon by potential new bosses.
    you forgot to mention visa free entry to Turks !
    The word "dilemma" comes from Greek where "di" means two and "lemma" means premise. Refers usually to difficult choice between two undesirable options.
    Often people seem to use this word mistakenly where "quandary" would fit better.
  • typistretired
    typistretired Posts: 2,099 Forumite
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    Received my leaflet from the government today recommending staying and I see Martin Lewis is one of those putting his two penny worth in.
    "Look after your pennies and your pounds will look after themselves"
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