BREXIT - Why?

maxie014

Just got the voting cards today thats two outs,the kids can vote whichever way they wish.
Bet theres a few meps with loose bowels at the moment at the prospect of losing all those gold plated scams,pensions and perks!

aspiration_2

Mr_Costcutter wrote: »

I disagree. In my opinion, house prices will not fall whether we leave the EU or not. There is a serious shortage of properties and until that problem is resolved, property prices are not likely to fall.

Not sure of your logic. First change of leaving the EU will be border control and immigration control. This would immediately put a brake on constant house price hikes. Once property speculators and buy to let magnates get their hands burnt, they will try to get out of the market. Then house prices should drop.

BucksLady

aspiration wrote: »

Not sure of your logic. First change of leaving the EU will be border control and immigration control. This would immediately put a brake on constant house price hikes. Once property speculators and buy to let magnates get their hands burnt, they will try to get out of the market. Then house prices should drop.

Border and Immigration Control will not solve the immediate problem of a chronic shortage of properties which exists today.

I'm afraid I don't support your theory in respect of property speculators and buy-to-let magnates.

aspiration_2

BucksLady wrote: »

Border and Immigration Control will not solve the immediate problem of a chronic shortage of properties which exists today.

I'm afraid I don't support your theory in respect of property speculators and buy-to-let magnates.

On BREXIT, if immigration grinds to a trickle, then the house price acceleration will not be as massive as now.

Appears to me that property speculators and people not good at maths also should have been excluded from voting!!! Ha Ha!!

bigfreddiel

It's been stated that if we vote out, then by 2030 we will all be £3,000 odd pounds worse off. Even tho' this is a ridiculous statement trying to predict fourteen years ahead, how about telling us how much better off we will be if we remain in by 2030?

So why can't they tell us that figure?

Cheers fj

AndyT678

bigfreddiel wrote: »

It's been stated that if we vote out, then by 2030 we will all be £3,000 odd pounds worse off. Even tho' this is a ridiculous statement trying to predict fourteen years ahead, how about telling us how much better off we will be if we remain in by 2030?

So why can't they tell us that figure?

Cheers fj

Most people ought to figure it out easily enough. It's £3,000.

There are 2 possible outcomes in this scenario. In = X; Out = X-£3,000. Whichever outcome is chosen the difference between the 2 is £3,000

melbury

chockydavid1983 wrote: »

I think it offered a few minor new insights but nothing to persuade anyone on either side to change their mind I wouldn't think or help the undecideds. I agree the Strasbourg thing is ridiculous!

Please could somebody tell me in simple terms exactly why they do the Strasbourg thing? It simply beggars belief:mad:

savings_my_hobby

jimjames wrote: »

How many bills in the Queen's Speech are from EU? Clue - it's a very round number. So suggestions that we have no control over our own laws aren't valid.

You are having huge trouble interpreting my posts aren't you?

I did not write in that quote we have no control over our own laws, I was eluding to the fact that we don't have FULL control over our own laws and this is the point.

You may like that fact and you are free to like it, I absolutely disagree that any power should be handed over to the EU from our parliament as it erodes our democracy.

Note I said to the EU, I did not mention NATO, which I support British membership of, mainly because if we can't even supply our soldiers with proper equipment in Afghanistan then we probably have little chance of staving off a proper invasion.

People might say, and often do say, that we give powers away to international law, yes we do, some good, others like having to take back idiots who went to Syria to join ISIS into our country is madness and we should never have signed up to it. ILL thought out gestures so they (politicians) can take the moral high ground.

Check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA8nABHLQQA

savings_my_hobby

Mr_Costcutter wrote: »

I disagree. In my opinion, house prices will not fall whether we leave the EU or not. There is a serious shortage of properties and until that problem is resolved, property prices are not likely to fall.

Shortage of properties or over inflated population?

How many people have invested in buy to let (thus denying a first time buyer the opportunity) knowing full well there is a never ending stream of immigrants who will need somewhere to live.
This of course has an effect on house prices and rent prices, after all if larry the landlord can't find someone to rent to, he will have to pay the mortgage himself (if he has one) so instead of charging £700p/m he will be forced to lower in to say £650p/m, if he still can't find any tenants he will have to lower it to say £600 and so on.

An end to Mass immigration will not make everything better overnight, many factors influence things, but mass immigration exasperates existing problems weather it be house prices, low wages, public services or the NHS waiting times.

bigfreddiel

AndyT678 wrote: »

Most people ought to figure it out easily enough. It's £3,000.

There are 2 possible outcomes in this scenario. In = X; Out = X-£3,000. Whichever outcome is chosen the difference between the 2 is £3,000

Cobblers, trying to predict anything in fourteen years time is pure fantasy.

I'm predicting it will be raining in Westminster on the 21st may 2030, at 11:30am

That is just as likely to happen is the £3k difference

Here is another question no one can answer.

Today, 20 May 2016, and exactly a year ago, 20 May 2015, how much did the uk receive from the eu, and how much did we contribute?

Cheers fj