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Apologies - I will reply later to as many as I can - I just have 5 minutes so thought I'd quickly reply to these two points:So, if she didn't hear your child/ren because they weren't there that day but the police think she may have legitimately thought this had happened, have they been round to other people's houses who have child/ren who they think she might have overheard?
Sorry, I might have missed something you've explained but how does your DD know it refers to a time that she was away with the Brownies? Did the police tell her?
As far as I know they didn't check with anyone else - it was late at night, I'd already proved it was false and off they went. They informed NSPCC the same night it was malicious.
DD was questions by the police about where she had been that weekend, what she had done, who she was with, whether "mummy and daddy got along" and "are there any problems at home you need to tell me about" - The following morning DD thought she was in trouble so I explained she wasn't, she then asked if I was in trouble because they were asking about me, I explained someone had lied and said some things had happened over the weekend and that the police just needed to find out the truth.Out,_Vile_Jelly wrote: »The one small positive in this hideous situation is that the police acted promptly on a tip-off about the welfare of a child; hopefully such action will help a vulnerable child in future if valuable resources aren't being squandered by malicious moronic time-wasters. Seriously, someone who a) deliberately wastes police & NSPCC time and b) goes to the effort of concocting such lies is mentally troubled.
Keep calm, and keep clear records of everything relating to this woman. Do not engage with her in any way.
I'm trying to think what her next action might be, given police & NSPCC is about as serious as it gets. I think you said she'd already tried the school.
I keep thinking "at least it was a quick response" but actually like you said - what happens if there WAS a child in need and it went missed because of people making false reports
I don't even want to think of what the NEXT thing would be. She's bound to do something because she "got away" with this :mad:0 -
Mimi - call and ask for an appointment with your local beat officer.
Outline the situation you are in and ask them to meet you and your daughter over a cuppa and a cupcake - explain that the late night visit has left her a little traumatised and confused and you need their help to alleviate her fears and restore her trust in the police.
If they say they don't have the time then escalate the request to the beat team's inspector. Also, speak with your local Victim Support team as they will have an 'in' to a friendly officer who might be able to chat with your DD.
As to the record of the incident - believe me, it will be factual and will have fully recorded that no evidence of abuse was found. This is a good thing not bad... it is an official record of an unplanned visit where your children were checked and found to be safe and well..
This will be very helpful to you should the allegations continue... please stop worrying about it. No one will see it unless it is retrieved as a result of a database search. A search request will only be made with good reason - such as another call out or you raising a complaint.
All searches of records are electronically tagged and retained so no one just sifts through stuff to check out friends, neighbours etc as that is illegal and they'd be sacked.
Your details remain safe and confidential.
Regarding your neighbour, what started all of this? Could you ask the council if they have a neighbour mediation service? She may well refuse to participate BUT it will look good to have proof that you have tried to address and diffuse the situation. It's another hit against the neighbour as she will appear difficult and unwilling to engage.
It's time to start getting those ducks in order... and all the little things do add to the picture.:hello:0 -
Tiddlywinks wrote: »Mimi - call and ask for an appointment with your local beat officer.
Outline the situation you are in and ask them to meet you and your daughter over a cuppa and a cupcake - explain that the late night visit has left her a little traumatised and confused and you need their help to alleviate her fears and restore her trust in the police.
If they say they don't have the time then escalate the request to the beat team's inspector. Also, speak with your local Victim Support team as they will have an 'in' to a friendly officer who might be able to chat with your DD.
As to the record of the incident - believe me, it will be factual and will have fully recorded that no evidence of abuse was found. This is a good thing not bad... it is an official record of an unplanned visit where your children were checked and found to be safe and well..
This will be very helpful to you should the allegations continue... please stop worrying about it. No one will see it unless it is retrieved as a result of a database search. A search request will only be made with good reason - such as another call out or you raising a complaint.
All searches of records are electronically tagged and retained so no one just sifts through stuff to check out friends, neighbours etc as that is illegal and they'd be sacked.
Your details remain safe and confidential.
Regarding your neighbour, what started all of this? Could you ask the council if they have a neighbour mediation service? She may well refuse to participate BUT it will look good to have proof that you have tried to address and diffuse the situation. It's another hit against the neighbour as she will appear difficult and unwilling to engage.
It's time to start getting those ducks in order... and all the little things do add to the picture.
Short version is: The kids fell out over something stupid, and it got nasty. I found out about it on the Friday and thought "its the weekend, they'll see each other, lets pop over and have a chat and get it sorted"
Didn't quite go to plan, the mother was verbally abusive to us, I walked off and said something along the lines of "next time I wont be coming over to talk to you nicely!" and that was that - until the following day when her fella came over and threatened me in front of my kids. Police were called and it was logged, I went into school and told them what had happened, gave the incident number and it all spiralled from there. I've been accused of attacking her on school premises in front of 300 people yet there were no witnesses, I've even "attacked" her whilst I was away with work... in another country...
I've tried mediation (My request) through School & Police. She lied through her teeth (and I was able to prove this) - She then stormed out upset.
The only time "we've" retaliated was when my dad shouted at her in the shop (She had followed my DD from home swearing at her and dad over heard) and she ran home then rang the police and lied about what happened. Police checked CCTV and realised she was lying, told dad to stay away from her and told her to stay away from us. Following day she went into my dads work, and told his boss she had a complaint against my dad and that she had a restraining order on him for violence!
She's off her rocker, big time. Touch wood nothing has happened so far this week...... It's like being in Eastenders but without the cockney accents!0 -
Homeownertobe wrote: »Didn't you once physically attack your partner because they wouldn't let you watch the X Factor?
It sounds like violence is the only thing you understand so you have no right to offer any kind of advice.
...and there goes another AE.0 -
Person_one wrote: »...and there goes another AE.
Pst... what does AE mean? Seen it twice today and have no clue what it means0 -
Mimi_Arc_en_ciel wrote: »I've been accused of attacking her on school premises in front of 300 people yet there were no witnesses, I've even "attacked" her whilst I was away with work... in another country...
I've tried mediation (My request) through School & Police. She lied through her teeth (and I was able to prove this) - She then stormed out upset.
The only time "we've" retaliated was when my dad shouted at her in the shop (She had followed my DD from home swearing at her and dad over heard) and she ran home then rang the police and lied about what happened. Police checked CCTV and realised she was lying, told dad to stay away from her and told her to stay away from us. Following day she went into my dads work, and told his boss she had a complaint against my dad and that she had a restraining order on him for violence!
You have a list of provable lies - added to the latest complaint to the NSPCC.
Lying in itself is not the offence (other than if under oath or caution and then there is a chance to just claim confusion) - it's the use of lies and official resources with the sole purpose to harass and intimidate.
Make a formal complaint to the police about harassment AND also see a solicitor.
She won't stop and this is not a great environment for your kids with this hanging over you.
You need to hit this head-on now BUT do it legally and non-confrontationally.
Why is the school involved by the way? Are either of you employees? I just find it strange to involve others in the dispute.:hello:0 -
Mimi_Arc_en_ciel wrote: »Pst... what does AE mean? Seen it twice today and have no clue what it means
AE=Alter ego
A poster who uses a different user name to their normal one. Often used by posters who've been PPR'd, to come back onto the forum.0 -
Mimi_Arc_en_ciel wrote: »Pst... what does AE mean? Seen it twice today and have no clue what it means
Alter Ego, some people get repeatedly banned and come back again and again. They are often recognisable by their posting styles or by the fact that they have in depth knowledge of threads and posts that happened years before they joined MSE. Both apply to 'Homeownertobe'.0 -
Homeownertobe wrote: »Didn't you once physically attack your partner because they wouldn't let you watch the X Factor?
It sounds like violence is the only thing you understand so you have no right to offer any kind of advice.
Thank you so much - now you are joining your ORIGINAL username on my ignore list. Says a lot that you have to make up names to get on this forum and I am still here, doesn't it?0
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