Shouldnt the "Remain" vote be winning by a landslide??

mwpt

Conrad wrote: »

We'll realise our full potential by being masters of our own destiny, tailor making our way in the world, trading as we see fit, quick to react once un-shackled from 27 other nations with disparate needs.

So as I said, we've got what we need, screw you guys, we're off.

Johnsmith2016

The point the remain cant grasp is I would rather be a few quid less well off in the pocket for the ability to stop ISIS free movment, deport terrorists, Stop TTIP, stop the 350m fee, control immigration, do our own trade deals, etc the list is endless. Their is no monetary or simple numbler value to compare against having these exciting freedoms.

mwpt

angrypirate wrote: »

Remain entails an ever closer union and leave is Brexit. I dont see a status quo option on the ballot paper.

The UK has agreed not to be part of the ever closer union, which may or may not even take place.

Johnsmith2016

mwpt wrote: »

So as I said, we've got what we need, screw you guys, we're off.

Yes - if that is best for us then yes. Or can we not be pro british anymore? Does putting our own first make us racist, fascist - unless we are the liberal pc brigade gender fluid non binary vegan lesbian.
Do you think china or india sit down and worry about the UK? Or is it always driven by what is in their best interests

Johnsmith2016

mwpt wrote: »

The UK has agreed not to be part of the ever closer union, which may or may not even take place.

Ah yes "daves reform"

" let me be clear none of his watered down concessions are legally binding"

But it was very nice of him to secure us "special status"

Johnsmith2016

angrypirate wrote: »

Remain entails an ever closer union and leave is Brexit. I dont see a status quo option on the ballot paper.

Did the UK exist prior to 1975

angrypirate

mwpt wrote: »

The UK has agreed not to be part of the ever closer union, which may or may not even take place.

Ah yes, coz we've never known a PM to lie to get the result he/she wanted.

REALLY?

Johnsmith2016

angrypirate wrote: »

Ah yes, coz we've never known a PM to lie to get the result he/she wanted.

REALLY?

Its been admitted they lied to get us in.

Johnsmith2016

mwpt wrote: »

The UK has agreed not to be part of the ever closer union, which may or may not even take place.

Dumb as a rock

Filo25

Johnsmith2016 wrote: »

Dumb as a rock

Pathetic comment.

Lets put it another way, given the growing Euroscepticism which Brexiters claim is on the rise everywhere across Europe then I hardly think the UK is likely to be alone in opposing ever closer union is it.

The EU moving towards a core and periphery makes sense for nearly everyone quite honestly.

And if we remain and find ourselves being forced down a path we don't want to be on in future then there is nothing to stop us having another referendum, but lets not vote on this one based on rampant speculation, of what might possibly happen years down the line.