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MPG Misselling by a Salesman

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  • facade
    facade Posts: 7,863 Forumite
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    edited 24 April 2016 at 11:28AM
    The basic lesson is that when somebody is trying to sell you something. and there is commission in it for them, they may be a bit economical with the truth.

    Just watch the Alec Baldwin motivational speech from Glengarry Glen Ross on youtube, for what makes a successful salesman. ;)

    (Be warned, he does use somewhat colourful language)
    I want to go back to The Olden Days, when every single thing that I can think of was better.....

    (except air quality and Medical Science ;))
  • SingleSue
    SingleSue Posts: 11,718 Forumite
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    I always take any potential MPG being advertised with a very large pinch of salt and if I get anywhere close, it's a bonus....
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • cajef
    cajef Posts: 6,283 Forumite
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    Turbos are super sensitive and want the best quality fuel or they fail etc.
    Would you like to link to where you get this information from or do you make things up as you go along, I ran all my turbo Saab's on supermarket fuel and never had turbo fail or give a problem.
  • motorguy
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    You'll only improve mpg up to a point and then it goes into diminishing returns territory where the injectors fail on tiny bit of condensation from supermarket diesel.

    Any evidence to back that up? I've ran diesels on supermarket fuel for years and had no issues. In fact some of the best MPGs (tested brim to brim) were on supermarket fuel.

    And you do know that diesel filters filter out the water, right?

    Turbos are super sensitive and want the best quality fuel or they fail etc.

    And what has the fuel got to do with the turbo? All a turbo does is compress air and force it in to the engine. No interaction with the fuel at all.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,622 Forumite
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    cajef wrote: »
    Would you like to link to where you get this information from or do you make things up as you go along, I ran all my turbo Saab's on supermarket fuel and never had turbo fail or give a problem.

    I'd like a link from him that shows any reliance the turbo has on the fuel at all, bearing in mind the turbo is effectively an air compressor.
  • Gloomendoom
    Gloomendoom Posts: 16,551 Forumite
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    motorguy wrote: »
    And what has the fuel got to do with the turbo? All a turbo does is compress air and force it in to the engine. No interaction with the fuel at all.

    That isn't quite true as the compressor side of the turbo is driven by burnt fuel. Crappy fuel could, in theory, coke up the exhaust turbine.
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
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    Four pages, and nobody's mentioned the one thing which is actually relevant.

    The ONLY economy figures which can be quoted during a sale are the official ones.
    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/the-fuel-consumption-testing-scheme.asp

    They aren't fabricated. They aren't lies. They aren't something the salesman's made up.
    They're derived from a standardised series of tests which apply to the entire industry in exactly the same way.
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Four pages, and nobody's mentioned the one thing which is actually relevant.

    The ONLY economy figures which can be quoted during a sale are the official ones.
    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/the-fuel-consumption-testing-scheme.asp

    They aren't fabricated. They aren't lies. They aren't something the salesman's made up.
    They're derived from a standardised series of tests which apply to the entire industry in exactly the same way.

    I mentioned they were competitive and Motorguy touched on a similar point in one of his first post on this thread.

    But we never went into as much detail as you did.
  • jaydeeuk1
    jaydeeuk1 Posts: 7,714 Forumite
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    Salesman is correct, you will get 70, probably 170mpg, just not all the time (ie, downhill in gear) as modern cars use no fuel at all in this situation.
  • Rain_Shadow
    Rain_Shadow Posts: 1,798 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Four pages, and nobody's mentioned the one thing which is actually relevant.

    The ONLY economy figures which can be quoted during a sale are the official ones.
    http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/the-fuel-consumption-testing-scheme.asp

    They aren't fabricated. They aren't lies. They aren't something the salesman's made up.
    They're derived from a standardised series of tests which apply to the entire industry in exactly the same way.


    Unless they are from Volkswagen or Mitsubishi. :cool:
    You can pick your friends and you can pick your nose but you can't pick your friend's nose.
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