MPG Misselling by a Salesman

gilbert_and_sullivan

Must be a hell of a car shortage in the country now, maybe all the used ones were broken down, Toyota (Pug/Cit) didn't have an Aygo (clone) to their name, all the ships carrying Korean baby cars cars sunk by U Boats?

So the only car available was a large and staggeringly ugly lump of a thing, looks only a mother could love, size and bulk alone would tell any prospective purchaser with an ounce of sense that it simply isn't going to give the same economy as a lighweight Diesel/hybrid mini car, which will still struggle to get 70mpg unless driven correctly.

RUSS56

no salesman can personally guarantee fuel consumption and all printed fuel figures are approved by law ?

societys_child

keith1950 wrote: »

If you read the whole thread you will see they were desperate for another car for the work run and now don't need the car because the employer has moved to within walking distance. The mpg is a red herring as they are now desperate to be rid of the car as they don't need it.
They have no right to get out of this contract without suffering some sort of financial loss so should get real and stop telling porkies.

I'd say you just hit the nail on the head.

Hoof_Hearted

The basic lesson is that when somebody is trying to sell you something. and there is commission in it for them, they may be a bit economical with the truth.

londonTiger

The talk of the mpg is neither here nor there. You could have test drove the car to see the mpg. In any case its your word against theirs and they could deny they ever promised such a figure.

Financial hardship is entirely on you. If the fuel economy was going to be a make or break deal for your bank you should have been more studious with it before signing the contract. Also buying a brand new car in the hopes that you will be able to "save on fuel" is just !!!!!!.

No matter how many miles you do per annum there is no way you can recoup the cost of a £10,000 car that does 70mpg over a £1000 mondeo that does 50mpg. Before you ever get to amortise the cost of the new car over fuel saved the cars will probably be a banger.

If you had bought a lupo sdi you probably would have got 70mpg and the owner reckons the car is worth £100.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5451526

Even they got 60mpg on a tiny car. You can't beat physics. You'll only improve mpg up to a point and then it goes into diminishing returns territory where the injectors fail on tiny bit of condensation from supermarket diesel. Turbos are super sensitive and want the best quality fuel or they fail etc.

bigjl

RUSS56 wrote: »

no salesman can personally guarantee fuel consumption and all printed fuel figures are approved by law ?

Well if your previous employment is as you have suggested elsewhere you should be telling as not asking the question

I am completely in the dark over the matter of fuel consumption

Strider590

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

The basic lesson is that when somebody is trying to sell you something. and there is commission in it for them, they may be a bit economical with the truth.

Plus, lets be honest, for most the MPG thing would have been nothing more than the "excuse" they needed to buy the car. Once they got it home and realised they'd be lied to, they actually wouldn't care anyway.

keith1950

.....and as they now don't need the car for work the financial loss of extra fuel costs would have all but disappeared.

motorguy

keith1950 wrote: »

.....and as they now don't need the car for work the financial loss would have all but disappeared.

They're actually better off now, not worse off.

bigjl

londonTiger wrote: »

The talk of the mpg is neither here nor there. You could have test drove the car to see the mpg. In any case its your word against theirs and they could deny they ever promised such a figure.

Financial hardship is entirely on you. If the fuel economy was going to be a make or break deal for your bank you should have been more studious with it before signing the contract. Also buying a brand new car in the hopes that you will be able to "save on fuel" is just !!!!!!.

No matter how many miles you do per annum there is no way you can recoup the cost of a £10,000 car that does 70mpg over a £1000 mondeo that does 50mpg. Before you ever get to amortise the cost of the new car over fuel saved the cars will probably be a banger.

If you had bought a lupo sdi you probably would have got 70mpg and the owner reckons the car is worth £100.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5451526

Even they got 60mpg on a tiny car. You can't beat physics. You'll only improve mpg up to a point and then it goes into diminishing returns territory where the injectors fail on tiny bit of condensation from supermarket diesel. Turbos are super sensitive and want the best quality fuel or they fail etc.

I have achieved over 50mpg from a 61 plate XJL, steady 50mph back from Heathrow in the early hours. Stuck in Mayfair traffic I have got under 25mpg from the same car. On both occasions the distance covered was around 70miles.

I have achieved over 65mpg from my mk3 Mondeo doing a similar off peak journey from Heathrow. Typically the Mondeo returned around 50mpg.

Our old Clio DCi could be coaxed to give as much as makes no difference 75mpg if you kept the speed below 60mph on a longer run, typically it was around the 60mpg mark, sometimes a little bit better, sometimes a little worse (say when AC was used)


I am not sure where you get the idea that supermarket fuel has more condensation, it certainly has a different additive package the mainstream brands.

The only reason to buy a more economical car is to reduce certain parts of your motoring budget. Namely fuel. As depreciation is still one of the biggest costs of motoring. Unless you adopt the Bangernomics philophosy or buy your cars at Auction to minimise depreciation.