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Impact on the UK Econemy when Turkey Joins the EU in October

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  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    7/7 bombers were not 1st generation (your definition)


    I agree. Lets deport all those that can not prove they are at least 50th generation because they might do something stupid.

    I think that means half the MPs we have might get the boot. Give you a chance to become an MP and put the world to right
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    did you correctly predict the number of migrants that arrived in germany last year?


    so weak of you Clapton

    When you realise your dreams/nightmares of 'at least 3 million turks will come' are just silly nonsense you resort to the above.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    so weak of you Clapton

    When you realise your dreams/nightmares of 'at least 3 million turks will come' are just silly nonsense you resort to the above.

    the people who have nightmares are the people who will vote 'stay' who see the possibility of Turkey joining as 'scaremongering'.

    My point is, that your endless arithmetic, is based on feet of clay and has no meaning.

    Given the uncertainty about the future, if Turkey had free movement to the UK, it is very possible that 3 million or more would choose to come.
    However, given the deep racism of the white christian EU I don't think the situation will arise for a while; but who knows
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    the people who have nightmares are the people who will vote 'stay' who see the possibility of Turkey joining as 'scaremongering'.

    My point is, that your endless arithmetic, is based on feet of clay and has no meaning.

    Given the uncertainty about the future, if Turkey had free movement to the UK, it is very possible that 3 million or more would choose to come.
    However, given the deep racism of the white christian EU I don't think the situation will arise for a while; but who knows


    come on Clapton the only reason people give you so much time is that you are often reasonable and can think and decide

    do you seriously think and believe 3 million turks could come to the UK in any realistic plausible scenario?

    Also if you think 3 million will head to the UK how many million do you think will head to Germany? 15 million? It must surely be multiples higher if for no other reason than Germany already has >10x as many Turks as the UK does and existing migrant communities act as a pull factor

    Clearly your 3 million guess is just silly.
    My estimate of 1/10th that figure over a 15 year period is much more plausible.
    Also timing would be important, for each year they are not in the EU the numbers that will come will reduce as they get richer and as you know even if they got in today they would need to wait 7 years before free movement kicked in.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    cells wrote: »
    come on Clapton the only reason people give you so much time is that you are often reasonable and can think and decide

    do you seriously think and believe 3 million turks could come to the UK in any realistic plausible scenario?

    Also if you think 3 million will head to the UK how many million do you think will head to Germany? 15 million? It must surely be multiples higher if for no other reason than Germany already has >10x as many Turks as the UK does and existing migrant communities act as a pull factor

    Clearly your 3 million guess is just silly.
    My estimate of 1/10th that figure over a 15 year period is much more plausible.
    Also timing would be important, for each year they are not in the EU the numbers that will come will reduce as they get richer and as you know even if they got in today they would need to wait 7 years before free movement kicked in.

    did you predict the migration to German correctly last year?
    if not why not?
    do you believe that what happened 5-10 years ago is a good guide to what may happen in the next 5-10 years?
  • cells
    cells Posts: 5,246 Forumite
    CLAPTON wrote: »
    did you predict the migration to German correctly last year?

    Yes I did
    if not why not?

    I said I did are you hard of hearing?
    do you believe that what happened 5-10 years ago is a good guide to what may happen in the next 5-10 years?

    more often than not, yes




    BUT ANYWAYS
    Do you still believe in the stupidity of your 3 million turks to come to the UK? Have the courage to admit you were a bit crazy in your views there no one will think any less of you
  • gfplux
    gfplux Posts: 4,985 Forumite
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    Turkey is not joining the EU in October.

    This is not being discussed at present.

    There will be no impact on the UK.

    Britain will retain all the same controls over it's borders for Turkish citizens after October as it does today.

    Perfect reply to a very silly and misleading post.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Perfect reply to a very silly and misleading post.

    why does the thought of Turkey joining scare you?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Did Turkey join the EU yet?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    edited 28 May 2016 at 2:32PM
    How're the negotiations going? 5 months and counting.
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