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  • mumps
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    Much processed food is dirty.

    Environmental Health Officers aren't doing their jobs very well then. I thought there were very strict rules when preparing or processing food.
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  • moneyistooshorttomention
    moneyistooshorttomention Posts: 17,940 Forumite
    edited 19 April 2016 at 6:46PM
    I took that comment by Homeownertobe as meaning that many foods include non food items - chemicals, etc - as that's the way many processed foods tend to be...:(

    For instance - in a very different context - I've gathered hydrochloric acid (for instance) is used in the course of preparing yer standard white sugar.!!!!! Not what I would call "clean" by any manner of means then.....

    As regards pejorative comments previously on the thread re "clean eating" - then I for one am certainly open to what phrase can one use to refer to (genuinely) healthy eating? That being, for instance, no chemicals, no sugar, etc, etc. I know I certainly open any cookbooks/recipes given by people etc etc hopefully when they say they are "healthy" and then get disillusioned the next second by the fact they've used sugar/white flour/white pasta/processed food/etc/etc. So it does feel necessary to have a word or phrase that denotes genuinely healthy eating and, as far as I'm concerned, "clean eating" will do for now until someone invents a better way of saying "When I say "healthy food" I REALLY mean it".

    My own mother assures me, at regular intervals, that she brought me up on a "healthy diet" - and I find that very odd. Reason being I recall fish fingers, custard powder, white bread, sugar, etc, etc and I literally don't understand why on earth she is telling me it was a "healthy diet" because I remember what I actually ate......#puzzled.com. I've come to the conclusion that she genuinely believes it really was "healthy" - even though it was very far from and therefore many people who say they eat a "healthy" diet don't do so either and genuinely believe that their diets are healthy (even though they arent).

    I still havent figured out why they describe these unhealthy diets as healthy though.....but I'm not going to trouble myself to try and work that particular puzzle out. With age comes the realisation that there are some "questions" about Life that never will be answered and one has to just live with having a lot of unanswered questions....darn it...
  • NewShadow
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    I'd be interested in that if you have a link. It would certainly confirm what I rather suspect.

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    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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  • Andypandyboy
    Andypandyboy Posts: 2,472 Forumite
    edited 19 April 2016 at 7:45PM
    duchy wrote: »
    So who the heck were the people who in your words SPOIL your meal by not having a starter- Your imaginary friends ??????? The ones you claim sit there po faced not having a starter whilst you do. Surely you didn't invent them to further your point !

    Think you just got busted :rotfl::rotfl:

    Do you seriously not know anyone who never has a starter ........because they had a late lunch, are dieting, don't fancy it etc. It sounds an odd dynamic to say never especially in your age group where appetites tend to shrink and health issues tend to become more common.

    I think people tend to generalise, so, in general, I don't know many people who I regularly eat out with who don't have a starter. It is so unusual that unless I really thought about it, I might also have said never. I don't expect MissB thought her words would be scrutinised quite so forensically;)

    I thought that it had been a complaint on this thread that comments had been misconstrued or over analysed, it seems it is still going on. Or is that only applicable to some people?

    I do know people who don't have dessert but even then, they (and I) will often share a cheeseboard.

  • NewShadow
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    edited 19 April 2016 at 6:53PM
    I know I certainly open any cookbooks/recipes given by people etc etc hopefully when they say they are "healthy" and then get disillusioned the next second by the fact they've used sugar/white flour/white pasta/processed food/etc/etc.

    Why's it not healthy to have these things in moderation as part of a balanced diet?
    andy wrote:
    I do know people who don't have dessert but even then, they (and I) will often share a cheeseboard.

    I used travel around 50 miles on special occasions just to visit a place with an amazing cheeseboard (cheese...my secret addiction)...then I moved to less than a mile away and haven't had an excuse to go since!
    That sounds like a classic case of premature extrapolation.

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  • missbiggles1
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    I took that comment by Homeownertobe as meaning that many foods include non food items - chemicals, etc - as that's the way many processed foods tend to be...:(

    For instance - in a very different context - I've gathered hydrochloric acid (for instance) is used in the course of preparing yer standard white sugar.!!!!! Not what I would call "clean" by any manner of means then.....

    As regards pejorative comments previously on the thread re "clean eating" - then I for one am certainly open to what phrase can one use to refer to (genuinely) healthy eating? That being, for instance, no chemicals, no sugar, etc, etc. I know I certainly open any cookbooks/recipes given by people etc etc hopefully when they say they are "healthy" and then get disillusioned the next second by the fact they've used sugar/white flour/white pasta/processed food/etc/etc. So it does feel necessary to have a word or phrase that denotes genuinely healthy eating and, as far as I'm concerned, "clean eating" will do for now until someone invents a better way of saying "When I say "healthy food" I REALLY mean it".

    My own mother assures me, at regular intervals, that she brought me up on a "healthy diet" - and I find that very odd. Reason being I recall fish fingers, custard powder, white bread, sugar, etc, etc and I literally don't understand why on earth she is telling me it was a "healthy diet" because I remember what I actually ate......#puzzled.com. I've come to the conclusion that she genuinely believes it really was "healthy" - even though it was very far from and therefore many people who say they eat a "healthy" diet don't do so either and genuinely believe that their diets are healthy (even though they arent).

    I still havent figured out why they describe these unhealthy diets as healthy though.....but I'm not going to trouble myself to try and work that particular puzzle out. With age comes the realisation that there are some "questions" about Life that never will be answered and one has to just live with having a lot of unanswered questions....darn it...

    Everything we eat is full of chemicals - they're the building blocks of food. As examples, we're encouraged to eat fresh spinach because it's full of iron (chemical symbol FE) and fresh fruit is full of sugar.
  • missbiggles1
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    NewShadow wrote: »
    Why's it not healthy to have these things in moderation as part of a balanced diet?



    I used travel around 50 miles on special occasions just to visit a place with an amazing cheeseboard (cheese...my secret addiction)...then I moved to less than a mile away and haven't had an excuse to go since!

    I used to be a regular of a pub in Didsbury (Manchester) that served an enormous variety of cheese (and accompaniments) and nothing else on the food front - people came from miles around. I believe they still do, although I doubt it's as cheap as it used to be.:(
  • pollypenny
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    Everything we eat is full of chemicals - they're the building blocks of food. As examples, we're encouraged to eat fresh spinach because it's full of iron (chemical symbol FE) and fresh fruit is full of sugar.

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    Absolutely!

    As long as you're not stuffing yourself with sweets and fried stuff, the odd ready meal or meal out, including pudding is fine.
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  • Everything we eat is full of chemicals - they're the building blocks of food. As examples, we're encouraged to eat fresh spinach because it's full of iron (chemical symbol FE) and fresh fruit is full of sugar.

    Errrm...I rather think that most of us know what is meant by "chemicals" - ie artificially-added, man (person!) made chemicals

    - ie rather than "naturally-occurring" "chemicals".

    "Disingenous" is the word that is coming to mind here.

    We DO know what we mean by "chemicals"/"processed" etc and it is commonly accepted what is meant by those words.

    :cool::(

    Fed-up now at feeling I have to "argue" a (very) obvious point....

    Like - why????????

    Which reminds me personally - fish for dinner tonight - not of the "red" herring variety.....must get cooking it...
  • missbiggles1
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    Errrm...I rather think that most of us know what is meant by "chemicals" - ie artificially-added, man (person!) made chemicals

    - ie rather than "naturally-occurring" "chemicals".

    "Disingenous" is the word that is coming to mind here.

    We DO know what we mean by "chemicals"/"processed" etc and it is commonly accepted what is meant by those words.

    :cool::(

    Fed-up now at feeling I have to "argue" a (very) obvious point....

    Like - why????????

    Which reminds me personally - fish for dinner tonight - not of the "red" herring variety.....must get cooking it...

    The point I was making, which seems to have escaped you, is that "chemicals" can be a good thing, whether inherent in a foodstuff or added at some point later. If someone needs to eat more iron to their diet, it matters not one jot whether they get it from eating spinach, from some food that's been fortified with added iron or by taking iron tablets.

    As for sugar, pure fruit juice can rot your teeth in exactly the same way that "unclean " fizzy drinks can, as research into tooth decay in children is now showing and many fruits are actually quite high in calories, a fact that some dieters ignore.
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