teacher refused a pupil a toilet visit

pinkshoes

Darksparkle wrote: »

So what if you take a sudden tummy upset or need to be sick? Would you just do it in the classroom?

Irrelevant. We are talking about someone needing to pee, not being ill.

I taught when I was 32 weeks pregnant with twins and managed to pee at break times.

If a kid looks ill, then of course I will send them off to the toilet. I will also get someone sensible to accompany them.

Darksparkle

pinkshoes wrote: »

Irrelevant. We are talking about someone needing to pee, not being ill.

I taught when I was 32 weeks pregnant with twins and managed to pee at break times.

If a kid looks ill, then of course I will send them off to the toilet. I will also get someone sensible to accompany them.

OP said going to toilet, not specifically going to pee!

As a 38 (nearly 39) week pregnant woman, I go when I need to go. Can't always be controlled to specific break times.

peachyprice

Darksparkle wrote: »

OP said going to toilet, not specifically going to pee!

As a 38 (nearly 39) week pregnant woman, I go when I need to go. Can't always be controlled to specific break times.

Hopefully the 12/13yo girl in question isn't 38/39 weeks pregnant.

Stevie_Palimo

peachyprice wrote: »

Hopefully the 12/13yo girl in question isn't 38/39 weeks pregnant.

In most cases yes but in certain areas I bet there are a handful that maybe.

foolofbeans

I can see both sides of this. Pupils leaving the classroom to go to the toilet is disruptive and mostly unnecessary judging from the amount of breaks that they have. Bladders can be trained to last longer and in a work environment most employees do not leave to go to the toilet every hour. I used to not go to the toilet all day at work even when pregnant - it can be done.
On the other hand if it is unusual for the pupil to ask and there is a valid reason the pupil needed to go within that two hour period the teacher should have discretion. I would think that if a blanket policy is in place to not allow toilet visits during lessons the pupils would be aware of this and would therefore not ask unless absolutely necessary.
I do remember regularly asking to go to the toilet during lessons and friends would do the same in order that we could gossip in the toilets and not have to be in the classroom.

RuthnJasper

When I was 8 I got a "sudden urge". I asked the teacher, who embarrassed me in front of the class and said "You may go, whilst I decide what punishment you will receive." I scuttled out, peed as quickly as I could, frightened all the while, and returned to be told that I would spend the entirety of my breaks for that day, including lunch, indoors writing lines.


I had to write "I must confine my toilet visits to break times" over and over again. My friends were sympathetic and waved at me from the playground through the classroom windows. I also had to explain to my mum why I hadn't eaten my packed lunch.


That was @ 30 years ago, and I remember every second of it.


J.K. Rowling was spot-on when she created Dolores Umbridge!

missbiggles1

foolofbeans wrote: »

I can see both sides of this. Pupils leaving the classroom to go to the toilet is disruptive and mostly unnecessary judging from the amount of breaks that they have. Bladders can be trained to last longer and in a work environment most employees do not leave to go to the toilet every hour. I used to not go to the toilet all day at work even when pregnant - it can be done.
On the other hand if it is unusual for the pupil to ask and there is a valid reason the pupil needed to go within that two hour period the teacher should have discretion. I would think that if a blanket policy is in place to not allow toilet visits during lessons the pupils would be aware of this and would therefore not ask unless absolutely necessary.
I do remember regularly asking to go to the toilet during lessons and friends would do the same in order that we could gossip in the toilets and not have to be in the classroom.

If we were allowed out, we definitely had to go one at a time.

euronorris

foolofbeans wrote: »

I can see both sides of this. Pupils leaving the classroom to go to the toilet is disruptive and mostly unnecessary judging from the amount of breaks that they have. Bladders can be trained to last longer and in a work environment most employees do not leave to go to the toilet every hour. I used to not go to the toilet all day at work even when pregnant - it can be done.

I went to the toilet almost every hour before I was pregnant. Now it's definitely at least once an hour, sometimes more (28 weeks pregnant).


I just have a small bladder, always have had. It's a running joke with family, friends and colleagues.


I have never, ever, ever been able to go a full working day without a loo break!


Just want to point out that we are not all built the same way.

peachyprice

foolofbeans wrote: »

On the other hand if it is unusual for the pupil to ask and there is a valid reason the pupil needed to go within that two hour period the teacher should have discretion.

It isn't 2 hours though, it's an hour or less. There's no reason why she couldn't have popped to the loo between lessons 3 and 4.

Pennywise

Person_one wrote: »

The way some kids act in the toilets can be exactly the reason some of the meeker kids, or those who are targets for bullies, don't feel able to go at breaks.

Well said! At our school, the toilets were often infested by smokers and generally horrible people. I got cigarette burns a few times just by daring to go into "their" toilet to pee at break. Teachers were completely useless - they knew about it, I told them about it, but they ignored it. As a result, I "trained" myself to wait all day until I got back home, meaning I didn't drink during the day at all. A very unhealthy outcome, but if the teachers are so useless they won't deal with that kind of bullying, what else can you do?