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teacher refused a pupil a toilet visit

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  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    edited 24 March 2016 at 9:20AM
    OP you need to ask your daughter's school about the policy.

    I've learned with my own child through school, that the policies and rules/expectations etc as relayed by her to me, are sometimes not the whole story, when checked with the school.
  • peachyprice
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    She's in y8, she's 12/13 years old. She has been there long enough to know that she should go to between lessons and she's old enough to understand that.

    Teachers are not monsters, in my experience if a child is obviously ill they will let them go, if a girl is obviously in menstrual distress they will let her go. Any other pee-requirements can wait until the end of the lesson.

    Lets face it, if there was absolutely no need to go before the start of the lesson (otherwise she wold have gone, wouldn't she?) the need to pee isn't going to be that urgent 20-30 mins later that she can't wait another 20-30 mins.
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  • peachyprice
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    So what if you take a sudden tummy upset or need to be sick? Would you just do it in the classroom?

    I think most teachers can tell the difference between a child who is about to be sick and a child that just needs to pee.
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  • missbiggles1
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    Agree this is totally unacceptable, especially if they are female and of menstruation age.

    The pupil should feel able to simply walk out and go to the toilet though. That is what bothers me most, the fact most wouldn't act in this very reasonable and mature manner.

    Seriously?:eek:
  • Darksparkle
    Darksparkle Posts: 5,465 Forumite
    I think most teachers can tell the difference between a child who is about to be sick and a child that just needs to pee.

    But if the school has a blanket policy, will the teacher go against that?
  • Person_one
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    Judi wrote: »

    Have you seen the damage kids do to school toilets?

    The way some kids act in the toilets can be exactly the reason some of the meeker kids, or those who are targets for bullies, don't feel able to go at breaks.

    Nobody should be denied the right to empty their bladder if they genuinely need to, it's not OK because they're 'only' teenagers.
  • peachyprice
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    But if the school has a blanket policy, will the teacher go against that?

    The blanket policy is to not let pupils out of the class to pee, not to not let them out to vomit.
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  • Person_one
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    Seriously?:eek:

    Would you prefer a child wet themselves? Prefer a girl on her period to end up with a bloodstained uniform?

    I walked out of class to throw up once. The fact that the teacher didn't believe I had a migraine made absolutely no difference to how I felt and what the inevitable result was going to be. I wasn't going to allow myself to be humiliated for their power trip, even at 14.
  • euronorris
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    So what if you take a sudden tummy upset or need to be sick? Would you just do it in the classroom?

    Happened to my niece. Suddenly came over all queasy, asked to go to the toilet, was refused, and then projectile vomited. She hasn't been refused since, bless her.


    I remember peeing my pants in primary school after asking repeatedly, and being refused. They were more lenient after that. Thankfully I've learnt better control since then! lol


    In secondary school though, I remember we were all trusted to just take ourselves off to the toilet as needed. BUT, if you were deemed to be doing this often, you'd get pulled up on it and dealt with appropriately. Seemed to work fine. No one spent inordinate amounts of time in toilets, instead of lessons.
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  • missbiggles1
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    Person_one wrote: »
    Would you prefer a child wet themselves? Prefer a girl on her period to end up with a bloodstained uniform?

    I walked out of class to throw up once. The fact that the teacher didn't believe I had a migraine made absolutely no difference to how I felt and what the inevitable result was going to be. I wasn't going to allow myself to be humiliated for their power trip, even at 14.

    I'd expect any child to get the teacher's permission to leave the classroom for any reason, not just get up and walk out. Can you imagine the chaos that would ensue if everybody was allowed to do that?
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