The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

skintmacflint

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Yes they have

Yes, they can't afford it.No, they won't. They will just stay at home rather than vote for either. My 65 year old father, a trade union activist, ex-steel worker, Labour voter and shop steward all his life... did just that in May. As did three of my uncles. There's nothing to make them vote for either. No nose holding required. SNP voters far outnumber Conservative voters if traditional Labour voters stay at home. Those Labour voters that have switched recently, either went to the SNP in 2015, or to Conservative in 2016. The Conservatives still only managed 22% to the SNP's nearly 50%.

The Labour voters left are those like my dad.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/22/nicola-sturgeon-britain-eu-referendum-scottish-independence

Ruth Davidson MORE than knows the score, she's far from stupid. She knows exactly what will happen in Scotland should Johnson ever lead the Conservatives.

Funny that as I know several similar age and background people who rather than waste a vote, decided to vote Conservative instead of sitting at home. Along with many others including SNP voters. Hope Sturgeon and Swinney (who carelessly lost 12% of his vote share) got the message.

As for the rest of your posturing above , too tired to bother tbh. There's a referendum to vote in today.

Shakethedisease

skintmacflint wrote: »

Funny that as I know several similar age and background people who rather than waste a vote, decided to vote Conservative instead of sitting at home. Along with many others including SNP voters. Hope Sturgeon and Swinney (who carelessly lost 12% of his vote share) got the message.

The only message was 'anyone but the SNP' in those areas. Over on the other side of Scotland, home of the red Clydesiders and traditional bastion of trade unionism. Older traditional voters stayed at home. The Tories have no hope there for the forseeable future.

As for the rest of your posturing above , too tired to bother tbh. There's a referendum to vote in today.

Get some rest then. It's going to be a long night.

.string.

skintmacflint wrote: »

Just thought I'd mention the Scottish Conservative party has refuted the possibility of splitting from the main

Good for them.

Ruth Davidson for PM!.[/QUOTE]

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Referendum - I did my duty at 07:15, no problem there, the voting both is 2 minutes walk away.

elantan

Ohhhh this is gonna be fun ... 52%-48% now that's even closer than indyref

Generali

elantan wrote: »

Ohhhh this is gonna be fun ... 52%-48% now that's even closer than indyref

It's why there should be a hurdle for changing the status quo.

Leanne1812

Can't quite believe the result....

Material change?

Generali

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Can't quite believe the result....

Material change?

To be fair, if some of the Celtic countries quit the UK it will at least improve England's budget position.

HornetSaver

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Can't quite believe the result....

Material change?

It's undoubtedly that.

I'm not going to offer an opinion on whether independence is a better or worse option for Scotland now than it was 21 months ago, because the truth is that we simply don't know what happens next for the UK as a whole. But undoubtedly this result gives Sturgeon the hand to call another referendum which I do not feel she had two days ago.

elantan

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Can't quite believe the result....

Material change?

Well it is the one she mentioned ... but let's see her squirm her way out of it ... I want indy, but even I recognise our country ain't ready for another campaign, not for a couple of years yet, so we need to see what her excuses are ...

Next we need BoJo as Pm then no chance of labour getting in power in 2020 then maybe ... maybe that will be enough for the No voters ...