The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Generali

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Would you prefer your government to just invest in anything or take a considered approach to something that may be harmful?

Well your Government has loudly declared that as far as it is concerned fracking is of no interest.

Leanne1812

Generali wrote: »

Well your Government has loudly declared that as far as it is concerned fracking is of no interest.

You're wrong there. Detailed, lengthy tests will be carried out and when the results are known a decision on whether to allow fracking will be made. Is that unwise to you?

Again, is any investment at all better than none?

wotsthat

If Westminster is for fracking then the SNP will be against. If Westminster is against take a wild guess what the SNP's position will be.

It must be killing Sturgeon to be for a remain vote whilst hoping Scotland overwhelmingly votes to stay and rUK overwhelmingly votes to leave.

As if any of this is based on 'detailed lengthy tests'.

Leanne1812

wotsthat wrote: »

If Westminster is for fracking then the SNP will be against. If Westminster is against take a wild guess what the SNP's position will be.

It must be killing Sturgeon to be for a remain vote whilst hoping Scotland overwhelmingly votes to stay and rUK overwhelmingly votes to leave.

As if any of this is based on 'detailed lengthy tests'.

I can tell you've put a lot of thought into your response. It's not just another anti SNP jibe.

Generali

Leanne1812 wrote: »

You're wrong there. Detailed, lengthy tests will be carried out and when the results are known a decision on whether to allow fracking will be made. Is that unwise to you?

Again, is any investment at all better than none?

What tests? Or are you just parroting what Ms Sturgeon has to say?

Leanne1812

Generali wrote: »

What tests? Or are you just parroting what Ms Sturgeon has to say?

Still deflecting.......

Taken from the SNP official website.

What is the SNP policy on fracking?

The SNP is taking a cautious, considered and evidenced-based approach to fracking. In January 2015 the SNP Scottish Government placed a moratorium on granting consents for unconventional oil and gas extraction. This will allow health and environmental impact tests to be carried out as well as a full public consultation to allow every interested organisation and any member of the public to input their views.The Scottish Government has been clear that no fracking can or will take place in Scotland while the moratorium remains in place.

Is this a lie?

Shakethedisease

.string. wrote: »

I don't follow the argument that Lab/Tory Scottish Parties are giving themselves "trouble down the line" by tailoring their policies to Scottish concerns.

They will have Scottish policies and UK policies; nothing wrong with that, anymore than, to use a favourite example, Yorkshire policies and UK policies.

Trouble in Scotland or in the UK as a whole?

Well let me put it forward for you.

The whole point of the fracking vote was to 'prove' that Scottish Labour, Scottish Greens and Scottish Lib Dems are even more against fracking than the SNP is.

Same as the Airport Passenger Duty cut the SNP want to implement. Scottish Labour want to 'prove' they're more left wing and green than the SNP are. The 50p top rate tax vote is to 'prove' that Scottish Labour are more socialist and left wing than the SNP are.

Scottish Labour are trying to move Scottish politics so far to the left, already a very crowded market in Scotland to get one over on the SNP.. that it will come back and bite them royally in the proverbial the next time they have to passionately argue their case...for staying under a profoundly more right wing Westminster ( Tories ) and UK overall. All to score a few points here and there ?

It’s not easy trying to be relevant again after spending 50 years taking the voters for granted. It’s much easier just to keep on about how bad your opponents are, how nasty those precious thieving SNP hobbits can be. You don’t know how to go about making a positive case for yourself, you don’t know where to begin....

...So if in 2017 the Scottish government announces that after lengthy consultation, after a careful examination of all the evidence, that they’re still not disposed to allow fracking, the fracking companies will be able to take them to court and point to this week’s vote in Holyrood as evidence that the Scottish Government was going to ban fracking all along and was never going to hear the case for it. It doesn’t matter that the SNP abstained. All that matters to Labour is that it got itself a wee bit of publicity. Someone noticed them this week. Gollum got a sight of Precious.

https://weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2016/06/02/labour-the-fracked-party-cracked-at-the-foundations-and-leaking-poison/

Made me laugh

Shakethedisease

Leanne1812 wrote: »

Still deflecting.......

Taken from the SNP official website.

What is the SNP policy on fracking?

The SNP is taking a cautious, considered and evidenced-based approach to fracking. In January 2015 the SNP Scottish Government placed a moratorium on granting consents for unconventional oil and gas extraction. This will allow health and environmental impact tests to be carried out as well as a full public consultation to allow every interested organisation and any member of the public to input their views.The Scottish Government has been clear that no fracking can or will take place in Scotland while the moratorium remains in place.

Is this a lie?

I wouldn't bother Leanne. They've all missed the point that it's Labour, the Lib Dems and the Greens that were doing all the voting yesterday for a meaningless complete 'ban' on fracking. It's those parties they should be castigating about 'being against' fracking and aren't afraid to prove it with loads of grandstanding, pointless votes and vast rounds of applause from the Scottish media. Hardly any mention of them though.. As per.

islandannie

Leanne Dear I appreciate your socialist attitude to your fellow citizens and i am sure you wish the very best for them, it maybe that you are more moral than our current leaders?

Perhaps you think that wealth should be redistributed and we would be a better society for it.

However your wish to defraud the taxpayer to enhance you portfolio would mark you out as just another venal hypocrite.

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2248693

wotsthat

Leanne1812 wrote: »

I can tell you've put a lot of thought into your response. It's not just another anti SNP jibe.

It's a jibe against people who think the actions of the SNP are based on detailed lengthy tests.