The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

Thrugelmir

Robisere wrote: »

I have relatives and friends who are Scottish born and bred, I am English born and bred, of Welsh descent. I believe that the future of Scotland and its people, is the business of the Scottish people and no one else.

Any debaters here should recognise that and act accordingly.

Many English people would no doubt happily agree with you.

.string.

Anyway it's nice to see a favoured part of the,UK doing well.

I note that the price of oil got up to 50$.

That's great also.

I suggest that the income derived from targeting comes to the Exchequer should be frightened for immediate use in reducing the national debt.

Generali

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Recall that fines were heavy and bottles were carried in brown paper bags.

Yup. $10,000 fine each for the barman and landlord for selling booze to a minor (you can however sell booze to a miner).

islandannie

.string. wrote: »

Anyway it's nice to see a favoured part of the,UK doing well.

I note that the price of oil got up to 50$.

That's great also.

I suggest that the income derived from targeting comes to the Exchequer should be frightened for immediate use in reducing the national debt.

I hope you don`t include the figures for oil revenue.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/uk-loses-money-north-sea-oil-first-time-since-records-began/

Generali

islandannie wrote: »

I hope you don`t include the figures for oil revenue.

https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/uk/uk-loses-money-north-sea-oil-first-time-since-records-began/

On a more positive note, the oil price only needs to double plus a bit more for a potential independent Scotland to be financially viable. :money:

islandannie

Generali wrote: »

On a more positive note, the oil price only needs to double plus a bit more for a potential independent Scotland to be financially viable. :money:

But always remember it`s Scotlands oil

Shakethedisease

Generali wrote: »

Hosie having an affair on the public's shilling is a very different thing. If he has claimed a tryst on expenses then that sounds a lot like fraud to me and fraudsters should be in gaol.

As predicted. Nothing more than rabid media headlines and trial by media.

Nick Eardley ‏@nickeardleybbc 5h5 hours ago Parliament's standards commissioner has ruled out a probe into accommodation expenses of Angus Macneil and Stewart Hosie

islandannie

shakethedisease wrote: »

as predicted. Nothing more than rabid media headlines and trial by media.

but what about the oil::(

Shakethedisease

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Apparently it did the image of the UK quite a lot of good as many other countries were surprised a potential break away region would be allowed that amount of democratic say.

The rest of the world now assumes that the issue is over though. If the nationalists keep agitating for endless referendums then I can;t imagine it will help investment into Scotland much.

The rest of the world doesn't seem to quite share the enthusiasm for Scottish nationalists abilities that they themselves hold.

I'm sure Scotland would do "OK" as a semi independent small country. It wouldn't be hell on earth, nor would it be the paradise that you think it would. It would require a lot of very hard work from people like you to get back to the point you were at before you split from the rest of the UK, and to prove to the large minority of Scottish people who didn't want it that your faith in yourself was well placed.

I don't think it would be a paradise no. But I do think that politics is diverging to the point where most Scots now consider Holyrood and it's day to day workings more important than what is taking place in Westminster. This has been amplified even more so since the General Election and the recent Holyrood one. To the point where no big name UK Labour or Conservative Leader, MP, cabinet or shadow cabinet member ventured north of the border for the entire duration of the campaign. No one really noticed.

Scottish Tories pretended that Westminster had nothing much to do with Scotland, and so did Scottish Labour. The problems will start for them when Ruth Davidson has to defend general UK Conservative policies, and when Kezia Dugdale is starkly faced with the fact that she can bleat on all she likes about being against Trident.. but it's actually elsewhere the decision will be made and her calls are all irrelevant.They can't keep up the pretence forever, and sooner or later it will catch up with them both.

Another thing you've missed is that the SNP aren't constantly agitating for another referendum. Even with a Brexit scenario Sturgeon has been very careful always to state ( whatever the headlines screech ) that a Brexit may 'lead to calls' for a second referendum. It's the Scots that will be doing the calling. Not the SNP who won't go for it unless it's there to be won.

It's interesting just how many posts on here associate the SNP and independence as if it's something only the party wish to do..but blithely and completely ignore what Scots electorate might wish or call for at some point in the future. ONLY when the Scots electorate want to go for it, will another independence referendum happen. It's not the SNP's 'call' to make. Just to facilitate. Sturgeon won't go for it again until it's there for the taking and she's been very consistent in her stance since 2014.

You as a Corbyn supporter should at least get the jist of it. He's looking to win over the electorate, members of his own party is doing the sabotaging. Yet it's the party infighting that dominates the headlines as if the electorate don't matter. Don't make the mistake of confusing party politics and headlines, with what the electorate actually want when it comes to Scotland either. Only independence support rising will push the SNP into another referendum. Not the other way round.

Shakethedisease

islandannie wrote: »

but what about the oil::(

Am sorry, I personally gave up answering your posts a very long time ago. No offence.